Beliefs and Perceptions Determine Experience

[S. Earl Martin]

I agree, but for instance if someone asks me a technical question about psychology or if they assume I am a psychologist? I will make it clear that I am not qualified to answer it. Wisdom is one thing, but knowledge is limited. I know my limits and have no illusions about admitting I have them. I have a pretty good grasp of logic and reason. I am a biologist by training. Other things I have no problem dealing with. I only took psychology as a minor for three years before I dropped out. I have learned more espically on this sight, but never claimed it as a field of expertise.

[pljames]

Belief and perceptions determine experience Sakoz,
What comes first the chicken or the egg? Experience has to come first before thoughts and belief not vice versa. What if experience as unknown or unseen circumstances happen? Thoughts? pl

[sakoz]

pljames: "Beliefs and perceptions determine experience",. Are you telling me this? Don't omit that beliefs FUNCTION as perceptions, and when they do, 'beliefs' DO come first and are experienced.
You write;"Experience has to come first before thoughts and beliefs not vice versa". Not so. In fact it's both ways, it is often vice versa.   
That's why humans suffer so much and make 'mistakes'; because they 'believe first'; and what they believe OFTEN ain't so, lol
A simple example, when someone worries about to-morrow and react and experience anxiety they CAN'T possibly be experiencing to-morrow,they are experiencing what images they 'believe' are real to-day.

[pljames]

I'll get back to you on that. pl

[pljames]

Sakoz,
 I understand I read it wrong. I take words to heart since I do not understand nouns and verbs. The words have to relate to the sentence and vice versa. Sentence construction is my passion. pl

pljames: "Beliefs and perceptions determine experience",. Are you telling me this? Don't omit that beliefs FUNCTION as perceptions, and when they do, 'beliefs' DO come first and are experienced.
You write;"Experience has to come first before thoughts and beliefs not vice versa". Not so. In fact it's both ways, it is often vice versa.   
That's why humans suffer so much and make 'mistakes'; because they 'believe first'; and what they believe OFTEN ain't so, lol
A simple example, when someone worries about to-morrow and react and experience anxiety they CAN'T possibly be experiencing to-morrow,they are experiencing what images they 'believe' are real to-day.