Awarness

[DMTisESP]

I am NOT God, but God is ME.  That is the essence of Gnana Yoga (Union by Knowledge).  That statement is indicative of not a change in lifestyle but of a change of perspective.  That is the sum of spirituality really, an intuitive change in perspective.  It's all science driven, if one calls psychology a science.  The study of the mind... 

Thank God psycho-mother isn't around to see this.  She'd say that Jesus=Horus and post a link to Aleister Crowley's Wikipedia page.  Crap...

Thanks, it is something One can only experience, like describing color to a blind man.

[sakoz]

pert-5, re your #22
"a change of perspective" and "an intuitive change in perspective"
I've been writing about 1st and 2nd order "shift of perspective", even the first shift to second order is "therapeutic", the "highest" or "ultimate" you write about BOGGLING ( for those never there).
The way I describe the first two levels of perspectives, is like interogation room one way glass, you can't see out of the room but from outside you can look in. Also dreams and lucid dreams. Say  during a nightmare, your IN the dream, even fearful. During a lucid dream, you witness the 'action', the dream characters "cannot" say, 'Hey look, we're being observed'." Levels of perspectives are asymmetrical (one way). So when you try to tell someone at lower level, what you 'see' at higher level, they can't "compute" that info.

[DMTisESP]

I was wondering if the Moderator or someone would mind posting this video link below of an experience I had when I was 19, this is connected to the levels of awareness and is enlightening,

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17NLdaCG5Kg[/youtube]

This is about science, I like physics more than psychology as I see physics as the root of all sciences, psychology is more a phlosophy to me, but I still dig it very much, but you guys are more, MUCH more Learned than me and your input is appreciated.

Peace out hope you enjoy the video.

[SWM]

video linked.

you can post links after you have made 10 posts

[DMTisESP]

This seems to correspond roughly to notions of awareness, cognition and metacognition.It's not meaningful to speak of the fourth "meta-meta" cognition, since metacognition accomodates that notion as well - though there would be nothing intrinsically wrong with such a theoretical framework, it's just not necessary. Strictly speaking, they are likely not hierarchically arranged in the manner you propose, but rather co-extant processes resembling feedback loops.

In greatly simplified terms (and it's really not going to be that simple, so hang on to your hat and glasses), an "awareness process" might be a biological feedback loop that reacts to an outside stimuli, such as retinas reacting to light. When light enters the retina, this produces an output in the "light awareness process" - this makes the organism "aware" of light. This output from the "light awareness process" is then interpreted by cognitive processes, along with other feedback loops, and the output is interpreted both by the originating awareness processes (e.g. in the form of bias) as well as by metacognitive processes, in an interdependent network.

This is obviously much more difficult to wrap your head around than a simple hierarchy, so you may want to apply rational faculties rather than attempting to get there in a trance.

Thank you I tagged Meta Cognitive to my collection   You rock

[DMTisESP]

Who can clarify the difference between 'awareness' and 'consciousness'?  Dictionary uses the two words synonymously.
Awareness can be 'focused' down to a specific 'item' or diffused to a panoramic 'set'. We do either while conscious.
I focus my awareness on these words, while my body is conscious of any  'significant' changes in my surroundings.

I am going to meditate on this, deep...
The words conscious or consciousness refers to two related but distinct definitions.  The first meaning refers to the directly accessible realm of thought that is active during our waking state.  This is where where internal dialogue, stream of consciousness, mental imaging, remembering, introspection, and input from the visual system are monitored and consulted to influence behavior. 

The second meaning of consciousness corresponds to awareness: awareness of sensory data and their characteristics.  Philosophy of the mind calls these phenomenal characteristics qualia, or "raw sensory feels".  Consider, for example, a cold glass of beer. The qualia would be the rich amber color, the cold wet feeling of the condensation on the glass, the bitter hoppy taste and smell. These qualia are interpreted subjectively in the conscious realm of thoughts mentioned above. 

[DMTisESP]

Compartmentalization/specilization can be limiting, in the realm of ideas. Cross-fertilization of thoughts can be benefical. Example; mechanical heart pumps, etc.
"Specilalists' have there own 'jargon'; which is specific, but a side effect is to keep 'others' out, "protecting their turf".
Your; " less scientific things are admissible", reveals your bias that goes with the "territory' of 'specialists'.

That would be like talking about architecture when working as a car mechanic, the one has little to do with the other, though there are some vague similarities.

Man you guys are deep I am having a hard time understanding you, you are all very deep and intelligent.

[sakoz]

DMTisESP; we're "so deep", sometimes ,we don't understand each other, (lol)
You like physics you wrote,- with the 'big bang" and e=mc2 in mind;
What can you tell us about the "spontaneous creation of thought"?  We need 'original' ideas  , newly "minted", not the same old from' thought system', not what we 'already' know, rehashed.

[DMTisESP]

DMTisESP; we're "so deep", sometimes ,we don't understand each other, (lol)
You like physics you wrote,- with the 'big bang" and e=mc2 in mind;
What can you tell us about the "spontaneous creation of thought"?  We need 'original' ideas  , newly "minted", not the same old from' thought system', not what we 'already' know, rehashed.

lol, yep the rabbit hole is a deep realm, I Love physics it is like apart of my religion, and E=mc^2 and Big Bang I liked as a theory but if Black holes create time, Dark Energy or what ever it is we Exist in the Next level might be in fact V=mc^3 here for those interested check out the simple description of all of that...  http://brownskinwife.yolasite.com/psychic-astronaut.php  Just cut and paist if the hyperlink doesn't work.  I will meditate deeply on your question sakoz and thank you so much for letting me join in I feel very welcome here.

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