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barlakopofai

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DID problem
« on: November 09, 2011, 12:52:20 AM »
I have DID blah,blah,blah backstory

Do you know how I can reverse an alter's merging? This weekend, my female alter suddenly decided to duplicate herself and force me to merge with the other one. It's nice and all, but there are some problems, like losing my mind, my left arm sometimes not obeying and saying things I normally wouldn't.

The problem gets gradually worse and I think I have a better chance of undoing it while I still am myself

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Re: DID problem
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2011, 07:54:02 PM »
We all have our personal/unique world view due to our unique experiences and how we interpret our experiences. We also share a consensus world view.
Multiple personalites, alter egos are rare. How did you learn to do it? I'm sure the answer is not 'easy'; I only have one 'ego' and am not sure how it formed. So my question  puts you "on the spot". I'm sure  someone here can answer your questions. I'm curious about the answers you will get.
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Re: DID problem
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2011, 08:15:41 PM »
I have DID blah,blah,blah backstory

"Do you know how I can reverse an alter's merging? "
What do you mean by "alter's".  I am unfamiliar with this term.
thanks
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Re: DID problem
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2011, 10:19:56 PM »
I have DID blah,blah,blah backstory

Do you know how I can reverse an alter's merging? This weekend, my female alter suddenly decided to duplicate herself and force me to merge with the other one. It's nice and all, but there are some problems, like losing my mind, my left arm sometimes not obeying and saying things I normally wouldn't.

The problem gets gradually worse and I think I have a better chance of undoing it while I still am myself

Please seek the advice of a licensed psychiatrist, not the advice of pseudo-intellectual armchair psychologists on the internet. 
That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

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Re: DID problem
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 10:40:48 PM »
I have DID blah,blah,blah backstory

Do you know how I can reverse an alter's merging? This weekend, my female alter suddenly decided to duplicate herself and force me to merge with the other one. It's nice and all, but there are some problems, like losing my mind, my left arm sometimes not obeying and saying things I normally wouldn't.

The problem gets gradually worse and I think I have a better chance of undoing it while I still am myself

Please seek the advice of a licensed psychiatrist, not the advice of pseudo-intellectual armchair psychologists on the internet.

I already am... In a month. Until then I take my chances with the simile-Socrates of the internet.


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Re: DID problem
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2011, 10:43:34 PM »
I have DID blah,blah,blah backstory

"Do you know how I can reverse an alter's merging? "
What do you mean by "alter's".  I am unfamiliar with this term.
thanks
Peace
I fixed you post by the way.

It can refer to an alter-ego, which is a character a person "plays" or it refers to a split personality which is complicated and boring to explain

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Re: DID problem
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2011, 11:03:10 PM »
We all have our personal/unique world view due to our unique experiences and how we interpret our experiences. We also share a consensus world view.
Multiple personalites, alter egos are rare. How did you learn to do it? I'm sure the answer is not 'easy'; I only have one 'ego' and am not sure how it formed. So my question  puts you "on the spot". I'm sure  someone here can answer your questions. I'm curious about the answers you will get.

Well, I've always been co-conscious with Eve, my female alter, so it wasn't really hard to realize she was there. After that, others "appeared" periodically.

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Re: DID problem
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2011, 06:51:23 PM »
barlakopofai: " you'll take your chances with simile-Socrates of the internet." You have the wherewithal to help yourself. Did you read the book or saw the movie,'A Beautiful Mind.'?
About John Nash. He learned to distinguish between reality and his illusions. You may be able to relate to him.

Consider this; Suppose you are awakened at two a.m. by a noise from the kitchen with the thought; "There's a burglar in the kitchen". How would you feel? Some fear/anxiety.
You go to the kitchen and see a different cause of the noise. NO burglar. While IN the bedroom, the burglar seemed real, real enough to evoke emotional reactions.  While IN the kitchen, no burglar. Simply by going from the bedroom to the kitchen solved/resolved the 'problem'.  You believe Eve is real, where do 'you' go to see that Eve is not real?
You currently are at a perspective or IN a frame of reference where Eve seems real, real as the burglar seemed. You 'shift' to a higher perspective, a meta-frame of reference FROM where you see Eve is not real, like from the kitchen the burglar was not real either. You 'shift' (introspectively) via insight/understanding.

Do you see how this applies to placebo effect and to everyone else when they believe some of their thoughts are real? The subject 'believes' a inert pill is medicine, then reacts to their belief involuntarily and experience pain relief or healing, etc. not recognizing they do the 'believing'.
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Re: DID problem
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2011, 12:29:30 AM »
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barlakopofai: " you'll take your chances with simile-Socrates of the internet." You have the wherewithal to help yourself. Did you read the book or saw the movie,'A Beautiful Mind.'?
About John Nash. He learned to distinguish between reality and his illusions. You may be able to relate to him.
Not likely, I am always doubtful about reality. Like this reality, which I'm not sure is reality.

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Consider this; Suppose you are awakened at two a.m. by a noise from the kitchen with the thought; "There's a burglar in the kitchen". How would you feel? Some fear/anxiety.
I don't feel fear/anxiety

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You go to the kitchen and see a different cause of the noise. NO burglar. While IN the bedroom, the burglar seemed real, real enough to evoke emotional reactions.  While IN the kitchen, no burglar. Simply by going from the bedroom to the kitchen solved/resolved the 'problem'.  You believe Eve is real, where do 'you' go to see that Eve is not real? You currently are at a perspective or IN a frame of reference where Eve seems real, real as the burglar seemed. You 'shift' to a higher perspective, a meta-frame of reference FROM where you see Eve is not real, like from the kitchen the burglar was not real either. You 'shift' (introspectively) via insight/understanding.
I'm going to say this plainly, I "know" Eve is real simply because from age 10 to 14, I "was" her. She may not exist anymore but she existed back then, that I am sure.

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Do you see how this applies to placebo effect and to everyone else when they believe some of their thoughts are real? The subject 'believes' a inert pill is medicine, then reacts to their belief involuntarily and experience pain relief or healing, etc. not recognizing they do the 'believing'.
I'm too skeptic about everything for that to work with me.

I have so much to say about why this logic doesn't work and yet, I can't say any of it because it went away the moment I tried to write it
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Re: DID problem
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2011, 12:37:49 AM »
By the way, there is more to it than just Eve. There are 6 alters.

Eve
eve (The child part Eve won't let me "access")
Dusk
727
The other guy (That's me)
??? (When I have short blackouts)

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Re: DID problem
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2011, 01:17:34 AM »
I "took the bait" :) but I'm 'on to you'; so will the psychiatrist in one or two sessions, but the psychiatrist will love you, you will be a source of income for months or years if you have insurance.
'Doubt/doubtful' is a form of expectation/thought; see how your using and misusing it against yourself? You may not be doing it on purpose, that's the tragic part.
Keep us posted on how the 'game' goes with the psychiatrist.
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Re: DID problem
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2011, 10:08:04 PM »
It may be fun pretending to talk to, or be other than oneself, but doing so is also an indication of a problem of self-acceptance.  In the following Url, is an explanation of the psychology of this "split" process.

http://about-psychology.com/C-D.html

Peace

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Re: DID problem
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 11:19:26 PM »
It may be fun pretending to talk to, or be other than oneself, but doing so is also an indication of a problem of self-acceptance.  In the following Url, is an explanation of the psychology of this "split" process.

Peace
Couldn't you have posted a page that didn't burn my eyes to read?

Err... No. I'm not sure if I read that right, but that's not right. Unless Eve is the old personnality and Dusk is the new one and I don't exist
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Re: DID problem
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2011, 11:24:51 PM »
I "took the bait" :) but I'm 'on to you'; so will the psychiatrist in one or two sessions, but the psychiatrist will love you, you will be a source of income for months or years if you have insurance.
I'm not even paying

'Doubt/doubtful' is a form of expectation/thought; see how your using and misusing it against yourself? You may not be doing it on purpose, that's the tragic part.
No, I don't see what you mean

Keep us posted on how the 'game' goes with the psychiatrist.
It's still three weeks until I go see him

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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2011, 12:19:28 AM »
barlakopofai; Did I misunderstand you? You don't believe you have the wherewithal to help yourself? You won't check out John Nash?
My analogy of the noise/burglar, you can't relate to? Do you see how some people might experience fear/anxiety in that situation? Your too skeptical for that to work for you?
Your skepticism/doubts are your 'lens' through which you view the world? A fish in a bowl sees whats in the room unless the water is cloudy; preconceptions work the same way for everyone.
We see/experience what we believe and we don't recognize that. ( You don't have to pay the  psychiatrist? Lucky.)
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Re: DID problem
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2011, 12:30:23 AM »
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barlakopofai; Did I misunderstand you? You don't believe you have the wherewithal to help yourself?

I had to google that word to know what you meant.
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You won't check out John Nash?
I probably will, but not now, I'm feeling depressed
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My analogy of the noise/burglar, you can't relate to?
Nope, not at all
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Do you see how some people might experience fear/anxiety in that situation?

Yes I do
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Your too skeptical for that to work for you?
Your skepticism/doubts are your 'lens' through which you view the world? A fish in a bowl sees whats in the room unless the water is cloudy; preconcepti0ons work the same way for everyone.  We see/experience what we believe and we don't recognize that.

I have no idea what you mean...
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( You don't have to pay the  psychiatrist? Lucky.)
IKR?
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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2011, 12:55:33 AM »
barlakopofai; Hummm?  Think of tasting lemon juice, think/imagine till you have to swallow. See? Your involuntary swallowing was in response to a image in your head; no real juice was present.
Can you see that as a 'principle'? Which is " our involuntary reacts to images as if real". Did you ever yourself or have you heard about looking at a piece of rope and seeing a snake and fearing the snake?/The snake was only a image in the head like the lemon juice. Our involuntary can't tell the differnece when a thought/image is "believed".
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2011, 01:31:02 AM »
barlakopofai; Hummm?  Think of tasting lemon juice, think/imagine till you have to swallow. See? Your involuntary swallowing was in response to a image in your head; no real juice was present.
Can you see that as a 'principle'? Which is " our involuntary reacts to images as if real".
I didn't do that... Is it supposed to work?

Did you ever yourself or have you heard about looking at a piece of rope and seeing a snake and fearing the snake?/The snake was only a image in the head like the lemon juice.
I have heard yes...

Our involuntary can't tell the differnece when a thought/image is "believed".
Ok...

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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2011, 07:14:33 PM »
barlakopofai; I wrote; " Think of tasting lemon juice, think/imagine till you have to swallow." You wrote; " I didn't do that....Is it supposed to work?"
That 'experiment' is so simple to do; you don't have to get up from your computer to do it, you can do,it as soon as you read that sentence, but you did not do it.
I have nothing more to offer you.

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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2011, 08:24:34 PM »
barlakopofai; I wrote; " Think of tasting lemon juice, think/imagine till you have to swallow." You wrote; " I didn't do that....Is it supposed to work?"
That 'experiment' is so simple to do; you don't have to get up from your computer to do it, you can do,it as soon as you read that sentence, but you did not do it.
I have nothing more to offer you.
But I tried to do it and it didn't work. It's not because I didn't want it to work, it's because I suffered minor dehydration

 

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