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Re: Hypnosis Does Not Exist
« Reply #120 on: March 03, 2011, 05:46:47 PM »
Harrison.. I'm sorry but must laugh at your link on reading this sentence

"There are those who believe quite sincerely and without irreverence that when the Lord caused Adam ‘to fall into a deep sleep’, this trance-like state was brought about by hypnotism in response to the Divine Will"

Ok I think that says where you are coming from...

If you don't know who Franz Anton Mesmer is and his Animal Magnatism therapy you are completely ignorant to the history of hypnosis. But if you want to belive it began with the Lord causing Adam to sleep, then fine, remain in your ignornat & deluded bliss of nonsense..
AND again you are just quoting stuff. Why can you not listen or at least contribute something of value?

If people beleive in the bible, are they not likely to belive in anything.
I don't believe in that bit either, I don't think it was meant to be taken literally. I haven't got the time to reprint the whole article editing out the bits I don't agree with. I think in general the article is accurate.

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« Reply #121 on: March 03, 2011, 06:02:54 PM »
 http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~kihlstrm/hypnosis_memory.htm

 this link is an article on post-hypnotic amnesia
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« Reply #122 on: March 03, 2011, 06:11:51 PM »
 http://www.whale.to/b/estabrooks_h.html

 this link is an article on the famous american hypnotist george estabrooks
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« Reply #123 on: March 03, 2011, 06:42:37 PM »
if you can prove hypnosis exist there is money in it.

"GRAHAM WAGSTAFF is a psychologist at Liverpool University who has been studying hypnosis for 20 years. Ask him whether stage hypnotists should be banned and he answers with a clear "No".

It is not that he is a fan. He just doesn't believe that there is any such thing as hypnotism.

Neither does The Amazing Kreskin. He began a stage career as a magician and hypnotist when he was 11. Now 59, he still treads the boards in the US, but insists: "Nobody on stage has ever been hypnotised in the history of the world."

So certain is he of this he has offered a $100,000 reward to anyone who can prove that hypnosis exists".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/hypnotism-does-not-exist-say-the-experts-1389968.html

I'll leave it at that, I'm going aroud in circles.
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« Reply #124 on: March 04, 2011, 09:43:28 AM »
you would have to know the conditions for the reward money to see how valid that is. Im sure many volunteers in stage shows are not really hypnotized, but some are. also as most things a hypnotized person can do, so can a normal awake person, anyone can copy the action and say I can do that and I'm not hypnotized. the best way to describe hypnotism is- an altered state of consciousness, I know and I've been in one. I had amnesia for almost all of it and some memories occured later in dreams. I don't suffer from amnesia normally. I was put in a trance from sleeping so I was not volunteering and anticipating what I could do consciously. I had no conscious awareness of what I had done except for a few brief glimpses which afterwards seemed like a dream. many people are sceptical about hypnotism and I can understand why, the only way to find out is to be hypnotized yourself, although not everyone can be.
take one stage routine- a subject given an onion and told its an apple he will enjoy eating, he eats the onion and in a deep trance it will actually taste like an apple. so a sceptic will say I can do that, eats an onion and says I'm enjoying this apple this proves there is no such thing as hypnotism, it does not. a sceptic could say I have an amnesia of that. it does not prove the amnesia is not real for hypnotized person.

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« Reply #125 on: March 04, 2011, 09:54:18 AM »
if you can prove hypnosis exist there is money in it.

"GRAHAM WAGSTAFF is a psychologist at Liverpool University who has been studying hypnosis for 20 years. Ask him whether stage hypnotists should be banned and he answers with a clear "No".

It is not that he is a fan. He just doesn't believe that there is any such thing as hypnotism.

Neither does The Amazing Kreskin. He began a stage career as a magician and hypnotist when he was 11. Now 59, he still treads the boards in the US, but insists: "Nobody on stage has ever been hypnotised in the history of the world."

So certain is he of this he has offered a $100,000 reward to anyone who can prove that hypnosis exists".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/hypnotism-does-not-exist-say-the-experts-1389968.html

I'll leave it at that, I'm going aroud in circles.

I think someone  should hypnotize graham wagstaff, give him the suggestion he is a male stripper, video it, give him post-hypnotic amnesia and play the video to him.

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« Reply #126 on: March 04, 2011, 10:22:52 AM »
whenever someone says hypnotism is not real its always stage hypnotism. the volunteers are exhibitionitsts and they are dying for the opportunity to go on a stage and undress and afterwards use the excuse they cannot remember what they did. and I suppose there is something in that. however, that does not apply to someone who is hypnotized covertly, and one way is to turn normal sleep to hypnotic sleep and then a trance with the person in somnambulism, appeariong to be awake but with no conscious awareness, this has happened to me.
in this link, ron hubbard, regardless of what you think of him as a person, and I don't think much, was, nevertheless, was widely regarded as a master hypnotist explains how he hypnotizes a sleeping person who will have amnesia and no memory of what happened. this works because a sleeping person can still hear with the unconscious mind.

 http://home.snafu.de/tilman/j/hypnosis.html

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« Reply #127 on: March 04, 2011, 10:39:53 AM »
there have been studies done to show that hypnotism is real, this is one

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3321395/Hypnotism-does-change-the-brain.html

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Re: Hypnosis Does Not Exist
« Reply #128 on: March 04, 2011, 10:43:26 AM »
why not hypnotize graham wagstaff and tell him to make love to a blow-up doll?

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Re: Hypnosis Does Not Exist
« Reply #129 on: March 04, 2011, 11:10:47 AM »
how sirhan sirhan ws hypnotized to kill robert kennedy

http://whale.to/b/sirhan.html

 

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