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Let us define the term "Psychology"
« on: January 19, 2011, 09:04:41 PM »
The ancient Greeks coined the term "Psychology" using the prefix "psyche', and psyche is defined as referring to "Self, Soul, and Mind".  These are Esoteric or non-physical phenomena that cannot be perceived by the brain, and thus unable to be studied by the physical brain.

This is where the faculty of intuition comes into play.  Many individuals have access to intuition.  Some more than others, but for those who have even some.... they realize there is a difference between the physical brain, and the MIND, which is not physical, but is composed of two levels of energies, one of which is aligned with the Astral region of Creation , and the other is aligned with the Causal region of Creation.

Psychology was therefore intended by the ancient Greeks to refer to a study of the Esoteric dimensions of Man.  This understanding persisted until the early 1900's, when B.F. Skinner, who was not trained in Psychology [but trained in watching animal behavior, and then thinking about what he observed].  Somehow Skinner, and his fellow animal behavior watchers, were allowed to call their observation of animal behavior a part of Psychology.  This was digging the grave for Psychology, and over they years the Esoteric Psychology of the ancient Greeks became the intellectualism dominated activity it is today.

So, if what one means to refer to is a strictly intellectual activity, then please us the symbol "BS&bp" fort [Behavioral Science and the oxymoron "behavioral psychology"], and if what you are referring to is an actual emotional level "conflict" within a person's MIND, then refer to this as Esoteric Psychology [meaning a study of the non-physical dimensions of Man]. This way all of us will know where each other is coming from.
BS&bp:
http://about-psychology.com/BS-bp.html
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Re: Let us define the term "Psychology"
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2011, 01:17:46 PM »
Psychology the field wasn't invented by the Ancient Greeks the people, psychology the word is derived from Ancient Greek the language. It means "the study of the mind," which is exactly what it is. It does not necessarily infer the use of the Scientific Method, the vast majority of psychologists just come to believe it is the best way to study the mind.
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Re: Let us define the term "Psychology"
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 11:30:59 PM »
.... they realize there is a difference between the physical brain, and the MIND, which is not physical, but is composed of two levels of energies, one of which is aligned with the Astral region of Creation , and the other is aligned with the Causal region of Creation.

What does this even mean and what is your evidence for it.
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Re: Let us define the term "Psychology"
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2011, 06:51:18 PM »
I agree that there should be a distinction between the two fields (though I probably wouldn't refer to them as "Astral" and "Causual"), because they focus on different things. But for all practical purposes, they already are separated - they just lack an official distinction. I recently read an interview with Ken Wilbur in which he claims that psychology is a dying field, and will continue to die for that very reason: the four fields (behavioral, cognitive, analytic and transpersonal) do not compliment, but harm each other by comparing evidence. A psychologist speaking on crystals and meditation techniques would face opposition at Harvard, and a psychologist demanding empirical evidence and lab tests would see his audience's eyes glaze over in the Bay area. If psychology hopes to survive, according to Wilbur, it must die, then be reborn as distinct fields. I'm not certain I agree, but he makes a compelling argument.

I must say, though, that I personally see no conflict between the two fields. In my opinion, any psychologist worth his salt - especially those working in therapy - must recognize and respect the two aspects of man: the empirical, observable behaviors and the unknown, unquantifiable qualities. They can be difficult to reconcile at times, but I do not believe they are opposed. I just think people forget that psychology is a young field, and there is still an immeasurable amount of work to be done.
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Re: Let us define the term "Psychology"
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2011, 03:33:28 PM »
I believe the "problem" of a conflict of psychology going in two basically different directions merely reflects the two basic different types of people there are on this Earth.
That is, the Thinker type individual, and the Enlightened individual.  This difference stems from where, on the "Ladder of Life" ones Soul is perched?  The phrase "Ladder of Life" is just an analogy to help explain how we Souls grow and mature... which of course requires one to realize one is a Soul, and that one is part of a process fulfilling the Purpose of Life.  On the lower rungs of this LOL, one is naturally  a Thinker type, and on the higher rungs one is naturally more Enlightened. <http://about-psychology.com/CDK.html>.
It is not possible for a Thinker type to perceive the Esoteric dimensions of Life, nor does the Thinker type realize he/she is missing anything... since his/her MIND causes him/her to "think" that there is nothing he/she cannot "know" via the brain and thinking.
It simply does not occur to the Thinker that he/she is unable to perceive 3/4ths of the Esoteric dimensions of Man, or of Life.
So those who believe in and pursue the oxymoron "behavioral psychology" think they are the leading edge of psychology.... not at all realizing that they are missing 3/4ths of the Esoteric whole of themselves, of Man, and of Life.
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Re: Let us define the term "Psychology"
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2011, 03:56:47 PM »
.... they realize there is a difference between the physical brain, and the MIND, which is not physical, but is composed of two levels of energies, one of which is aligned with the Astral region of Creation , and the other is aligned with the Causal region of Creation.

What does it mean?  Where do I begin?  Perhaps by explaining the fact that there is an Astral region of Creation and a Causal region of Creation, and that these are reflected in Man as the two parts of the MIND of Man:  The Astral region being the lower MIND, and the Causal region being the higher MIND of Man.  An excellent book on this would be "The Wirleess Anatomy of Man. by Randolph Stone, CRCS Publications, 1953.
As far as "evidence" goes... when is the last time you "saw" the evidence of Truth?  And yet you perhaps believe there is such a thing as Truth?
My point is exactly established with your question. If one is unable to perceive the Reality of the Esoteric elements of Life, ones brain and thinking will not aide one in this endeavor.
Peace

What does this even mean and what is your evidence for it.

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Re: Let us define the term "Psychology"
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2011, 04:03:21 PM »
Psychology the field wasn't invented by the Ancient Greeks the people, psychology the word is derived from Ancient Greek the language. It means "the study of the mind," which is exactly what it is.
Perhaps it makes sense to you that language precedes human beings, but I find this a bit backwards.
The question is this:  What is the MIND? Next, of what is it composed? Then, where is it located? When you know the answers to these questions, then you are ready to post.....
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Re: Let us define the term "Psychology"
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 04:15:37 PM »
the vast majority of psychologists just come to believe it is the best way to study the mind.
The reason the "vast majority" believe this is that they are unable to "experience" the Esoteric dimensions of Psychology, which the ancient Greeks intended the study of Psychology to require. To imagine that one can study the Esoteric dimensions of Man using ones brain is the height of Delusional Thinking... but is also a perfectly natural protective idea provided to many people by their MINDs as part of the DM=SI of the http://about-psychology.com/DM-SI.html. MIND.
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Re: Let us define the term "Psychology"
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 06:06:17 PM »
Oh, kill me with a brick!  When did docjp come back here!?

It is not possible for a Thinker type to perceive the Esoteric dimensions of Life, nor does the Thinker type realize he/she is missing anything... since his/her MIND causes him/her to "think" that there is nothing he/she cannot "know" via the brain and thinking.
Crap, either I'm experiencing temporary psychosis or I actually agree with this.   ...I agree with this.  Dammit!  Why couldn't it be psychosis?
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Re: Let us define the term "Psychology"
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2011, 11:57:26 AM »
Psychology the field wasn't invented by the Ancient Greeks the people, psychology the word is derived from Ancient Greek the language. It means "the study of the mind," which is exactly what it is.
Perhaps it makes sense to you that language precedes human beings, but I find this a bit backwards.
The question is this:  What is the MIND? Next, of what is it composed? Then, where is it located? When you know the answers to these questions, then you are ready to post.....
Peace

"What is the mind?" is basically the fundamental research question in psychology. In a very real sense, that question is implied every time someone engages in psychological research or even uses the word psychology.

the vast majority of psychologists just come to believe it is the best way to study the mind.
The reason the "vast majority" believe this is that they are unable to "experience" the Esoteric dimensions of Psychology, which the ancient Greeks intended the study of Psychology to require. To imagine that one can study the Esoteric dimensions of Man using ones brain is the height of Delusional Thinking... but is also a perfectly natural protective idea provided to many people by their MINDs as part of the DM=SI of the http://about-psychology.com/DM-SI.html. MIND.
Peace

Are you aware that the ancient Greeks did not actually ever use the word psychology, and that its first use was in the form of "Psichologia" during the late 1500s, which only developed into "Psychology" decades after that? Your esoteric knowledge may be up to par, I don't know, but your historical knowledge is sorely lacking. Frankly, I suspect "esoteric" knowledge correlates very strongly with "nonsense."

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