Author Topic: Living my dreams in reality (Read 5316 times)

BrianM1 · « **on:** December 09, 2008, 05:59:52 PM »

has anyone else here found that they seem to get deja-vu(in my definition it means having a dream and years later you experience it in life)?
I have found that so much in my life, so I began to keep a diary of my dreams and when I have deja-vu.

Shell · « **Reply #1 on:** December 09, 2008, 10:19:39 PM »

Deja Vu. Very interesting topic!! I have a more spiritual perspective on deja vu. Won't get into that unless it's cool with you, though.

Went reading some stuff about it online since you brought the topic up. Here's a link to one, it discusses recognition memory.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081118122146.htm

You've tempted me to do some research, though. Might come back to this when I have some time to look into it more.

BrianM1 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 10, 2008, 05:13:03 AM »

Quote from: CecileT on December 09, 2008, 10:19:39 PM

Deja Vu. Very interesting topic!! I have a more spiritual perspective on deja vu. Won't get into that unless it's cool with you, though.

Went reading some stuff about it online since you brought the topic up. Here's a link to one, it discusses recognition memory.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081118122146.htm

You've tempted me to do some research, though. Might come back to this when I have some time to look into it more.

Please do! Any experiance or opinions are cool!

I found this on Wiki:
Dreams

Some believe déjà vu is the memory of dreams. Though the majority of dreams are never remembered, a dreaming person can display activity in the areas of the brain that process long-term memory. It has been speculated that dreams read directly into long-term memory, bypassing short-term memory entirely. In this case, déjà vu might be a memory of a forgotten dream with elements in common with the current waking experience. This may be similar to another phenomenon known as déjà rêvé, or "already dreamed." However, later studies on mice indicate that long-term memories must be first established as short-term memories.

Kevin Heady suggested that a feeling of remembering occurs in a sense that he might realize that what he had dreamed is now a relevant present action that is taking place right here right now.

"I was once sitting down in the kitchen noticing that my plate seemed well too familiar, it seemed as if my head motions were foreseen, and that every move would trigger a continuation to happen or so, I had many déjà vus as a child but this was extraordinary, I knew from the bottom of my heart that I had dreamed this situation years ago, as a little boy, that amazingly an entire piece of memory was regained and I finally understood when and where I was dreaming and how long this dream was, and most importantly how many years ago did I dream."
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Now this is what i'm talking about! I'm gonna look up some info on this Kevin Heady fellow.

SWM · « **Reply #3 on:** December 12, 2008, 11:21:33 AM »

i used to have that deja vu feeling a lot. i think it is interesting that it is a well recognised phenomena. obviously something that all people have or have experienced at sometime.

i remember there where times when i had dejavu so strong that i knew that the only explanation was that my future was planned out precisely. how else could i have a memory of something that i had only just experienced.

one of them was a dream that i remember and i remembered the dream before i had the experience in my life. i was sat in an office and i had a strong awareness of the surroundings there was a lot of paper around me. i recalled this dream when i was awake but it wasnt significant until i started a job some months later working as a clerk in the post room of a legal firm, only to recognise the office from my dream. what explanations are there for such experiences. i have a lot of experiences such as this expereinces that cross over the psychology / parapsychology boundaries.

Enigma · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2008, 09:42:28 AM »

I had my most significant experience with deja vu a week or so ago. I remember dreaming about a conversation me and a buddy of mine were having in the car while we were on our way to go off-roading. The next day I mention the dream to my friends and forget about it. A day or so later, me and my friend head off to our off-roading spot. On the way there, we start to have the same conversation as in my dream. Exact same scenery, exact same conversation as my dream. I knew what he was going to say before he said it. I've had deja vu before before, but this was the strongest experience that I've had.

One of my theories on deja vu involves a fold in the fourth dimension. It's pretty hard to explain, this video explains it (and the other dimensions) better than I can:

SWM · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2008, 11:57:23 PM »

hmmm

i have a problem with this.

for me, in my reality,

the fourth dimension does not exist. certainly not in the way described in the video.

in the video time is described to as being kind of linear, there is a timeline _______

and we exist in between the future and the past, past____me___future

this does not fit with my understanding of time. time does not exist in this sense, there is no past or future except in consciousness, past and future exist only in the mind as movements of consciousness.

instead of a line _____ of time their is a single point . which is the present. nothing exists but the present moment. time is a psychological construction to explain the changing of the form of the present.

i had to stop the video at that point . but i may go back to pick some more holes in it at some time in the future.

coyote · « **Reply #6 on:** January 02, 2009, 05:43:39 AM »

Once as a child I dreamed about going over to a friends house. As I walked through her door, the interior of the house was completely different from what I knew it to be. A few years later her parents sold their house, had it moved and replaced it with a double wide trailer. The first time I went over, I was startled that the inside of their new house was identicle to my dream from several years before. And my friend even had the room, she had in my dream. I never wanted to be over there after that, I found it to strange.

Shell · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2009, 05:42:52 PM »

I used to believe that deja vu was God's way of planting little sign posts to tell us we are where we're supposed to be and His plan is always being done.

Sofia · « **Reply #8 on:** January 13, 2009, 07:03:41 AM »

deja-vu has recently been proven to be apart of a biological memory problem concerning the organ, "parahippocampal gyrus," it's nothing magical..
clairvoyant dreaming, on the other hand, is a totally different thing...

italianpole · « **Reply #9 on:** February 03, 2009, 03:11:16 AM »

a couple years back I had a dream, I described it to my mother and she said that it was the day I was brought home from the hospital after I was born. I thought it was pretty cool to actually dream about something that happened quite a while ago.

reira · « **Reply #10 on:** May 15, 2009, 07:37:02 AM »

I've been experiencing deja-vu's lately it's like a certain situation has occurred somewhere in my past. It's like I've seen this scene before but I couldn't just remember it exactly. Boy sometimes it drives me crazy.

liza123 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:00:05 AM »

i do not whether to call this deja vu or past life...but, i have been the weirdest of dreams for the past few years...i keep dreaming of a guy whom i had never met before. to date, i have not met the guy..what do you think it is?do not worry. i am sane and do not suffer from any psychological problem. is it deja vu or my past life connection?any advice?

seekinghga · « **Reply #12 on:** May 19, 2009, 11:27:18 AM »

Quote from: liza123 on May 19, 2009, 10:00:05 AM

i do not whether to call this deja vu or past life...but, i have been the weirdest of dreams for the past few years...i keep dreaming of a guy whom i had never met before. to date, i have not met the guy..what do you think it is?do not worry. i am sane and do not suffer from any psychological problem. is it deja vu or my past life connection?any advice?

Even though you do not know the guy, does the dream person seem familiar to you? That would indicate deja vu, which is really just a malfunction of the memory; attributing experiential validation where there is none. It could also be past life. I must say that I do not carry the traditional values of past life. If I may explain:

On Reincarnation
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Surely the same energy which constitutes one's life will be used in subsequent lives, but there is no "soul" that merely slips from one body to the other and contains within it an inherent "knowledge" of previous lives. Rather, it is more like a cup of water is poured back into the lake (God?), and if some of the water (that was in the cup) happens to be placed into another cup at a later date, it is only a quantity and not the quality of the water that is transferred. (4-21-09)

My thoughts on it anyways...

liza123 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 20, 2009, 03:55:50 PM »

Thanks for your reply. No, i have never seen the guy...so, i suppose that it could not be deja vu...

it could be past life as you say...but, what about my future life?could it not be that?

with regards to your definition on reincarnation(i think that it is rebirth), can you explain the part about water from another cup part?

seekinghga · « **Reply #14 on:** May 20, 2009, 08:32:41 PM »

Quote from: liza123 on May 20, 2009, 03:55:50 PM

Thanks for your reply. No, i have never seen the guy...so, i suppose that it could not be deja vu...

You would not have needed to see the guy in order for it to be deja vu. For example, if I were to enter a room that I have never been in in my entire life and yet feel as if it is familiar to me anyways -- that would be deja vu.

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it could be past life as you say...but, what about my future life?could it not be that?

My view of time is that it is an epiphenomenon of human consciousness. It is merely a form of measure, much like a measuring cup or ruler; a convenience. For instance, 5 seconds has no objective value in itself. It is only through its relation to our perception that it is attributed any meaning. What then is time measuring through its relationship to us? The concept of an "Eternal Now" comes to mind. Of course this is just my opinion and as such I am probably not the one to answer this question. Hopefully someone else can formulate an answer in the context of how you wish.

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with regards to your definition on reincarnation(i think that it is rebirth), can you explain the part about water from another cup part?

No problem. Let's say that the sum total of all Consciousness is a POOL of water and that our human bodies are cups. Now whenever a cup (person) is born it is filled with water from the POOL. The water that is placed into the cup is only a small portion of that POOL of total Consciousness; some of us may call this small portion of the POOL the "soul" or "spirit." Anyway, when that cup is no longer capable of holding the water (the body dies) the water returns to the original POOL which is that sum total of Consciousness. This is not to say that the life of the cup was in vain or unnecessary. On the contrary, throughout its short life the cup has picked up various qualities which add color, add flavor, etc., to the water in the cup. When the water that was in the cup is poured back into the POOL of all Consciousness (ie. death occurs), those qualities which were picked up by the water that was in the cup are also introduced into the POOL. Now, these qualities (which we can call experience) do not remain together, but are diluted throughout the water of the POOL. When a new cup is born and is filled with water from the POOL of Consciousness, it is very possible that some of the water that was in previous cups is put into the new cup. But those qualities (flavor, color, etc [experience]) from previous cups are too diluted to add anything to the new cup. Hence my statement, "it is only a QUANTITY and not the QUALITY of the water that is transferred."

If that is still no good just let me know.

SWM · « **Reply #15 on:** May 20, 2009, 09:07:10 PM »

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When a new cup is born and is filled with water from the POOL of Consciousness, it is very possible that some of the water that was in previous cups is put into the new cup. But those qualities (flavor, color, etc [experience]) from previous cups are too diluted to add anything to the new cup.

in the context of Liza123's experience, we could also connsider that the water in the cup has become aware of something that the pool contains. their has been a minor atunement, the cup of water has become aware of a memory in the pool, while still being seperate from and unconscious of the pool itself.

Bill Hemphill · « **Reply #16 on:** May 31, 2009, 02:25:23 PM »

SWM, are you saying there are black holes in this theory? Just having a laugh. I suspect some of these things are on to something and some are not. Parapsychology is difficult to grasp for me with so many terms that don't seem to have a foundation other than so and so said so.

anaklio · « **Reply #17 on:** June 01, 2009, 10:08:02 AM »

Just because there's an apparent neuroanatomical correlate of a phenomena (e.g., deja vu) doesn't mean that structure causes it. And even if it does, you could still argue that "god" stimulated that brain part or put it there etc.

Bill Hemphill · « **Reply #18 on:** June 01, 2009, 12:12:59 PM »

anaklio, I have in recent years attempted a study of parapsychology and from what I can see we are the lamb between consciousness and subconscious. Or conscious world and the Spirit of the Living God. That is how I am currently thinking of this parapsychology. I think that the subconscious is the Spirit of the Living God. It is described as all knowing and so is God.

Bill Hemphill · « **Reply #19 on:** June 02, 2009, 12:37:35 PM »

Quote from: Bill Hemphill on May 31, 2009, 02:25:23 PM

SWM, are you saying there are black holes in this theory? Just having a laugh. I suspect some of these things are on to something and some are not. Parapsychology is difficult to grasp for me with so many terms that don't seem to have a foundation other than so and so said so.

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alloker · « **Reply #20 on:** September 09, 2009, 10:58:29 AM »

Dreams are about unsolved problems, about harmful failures, with which consciousness does not deal adequately. Therefore it is natural to relive experiences that have been dealt with in dreams. You succeeded to see this connection.

Altan

subguy2 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 30, 2010, 04:24:36 AM »

this often happens with me, i find my dreams prepare me for real life...
its as though i have the answers to the problems when they happen. very rarley am i caught of guarde with a problem that somewhere in my sub. my dreams havent already guided me on...

NataEames · « **Reply #22 on:** October 30, 2010, 08:48:27 AM »

I all the time have deja vu and I'm sure it comes from my dreams. Even the dreams I have forgotten, my friends have told me I mentioned dreaming something like that a while back.

This is apparently very common but people brush it off too easy. I think this should be studied further.

If anyone has any more links or information, this is one of my top areas of interest, I'll be very happy to hear it.

My e-mail is nata_eames@yahoo.com

psy_guy · « **Reply #23 on:** October 31, 2010, 01:51:07 AM »

I have had feelings of deja-vu sometime ago, mostly, when I got into new classes in our and another schools, or when I'm watching something... That's a strange feeling. I have no idea on how this could be logically explained, since this topic moved my thinking senses, I will investigate further about all this parapsychology thing. It's a strange thing yet.
I know two theories basically: God's signs and past life. I'm more of a science guy with logic stuff, so that explains nothing for my way of thinking.

NataEames · « **Reply #24 on:** October 31, 2010, 02:43:38 AM »

I believe that it is all in the parts of the brain we don't use. And that some parts of our unconscious pick up energies which travel outside of time and space.

I've had dreams and visions of the future. I've had either parts of them of the entire thing come true and I have witnesses so I can't say that maybe it's false memories or something.

psy_guy · « **Reply #25 on:** November 01, 2010, 03:07:26 AM »

I haven't still read much about parapsychology, though I've a theory, that this might be related to sleep-walking... Oh well, I should be able to read about it sometime, it 's darn late at the moment. :/

pert -5 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 01, 2010, 10:10:32 AM »

Quote from: psy_guy on October 31, 2010, 01:51:07 AM

I have had feelings of deja-vu sometime ago, mostly, when I got into new classes in our and another schools, or when I'm watching something... That's a strange feeling. I have no idea on how this could be logically explained, since this topic moved my thinking senses, I will investigate further about all this parapsychology thing. It's a strange thing yet.
I know two theories basically: God's signs and past life. I'm more of a science guy with logic stuff, so that explains nothing for my way of thinking.

Deja vu is merely a flaw in memory encoding; an adding of subjective familiarity to that which has none. At least that constitutes the majority of such occurrences. There is also the prospect of apophenia which should be pondered in these matters as well. Time is a construct of the mind that is born of convenience. In light of this, making two separate events congruent in the mind can be understandable.

NataEames · « **Reply #27 on:** November 01, 2010, 01:14:44 PM »

I remember researching this a long time ago. It said that there are 3 main reasons for experiencing deja vu. 1 was a case of bad memory, 2 i forgot lol and 3 was actually that you dreamed of the future.

Don't be surprised if you had dreamed about today when you were a child, this is very common. Unfortunately, not my top area of expertise but I will call one ex-colleague today, he will fill us in.

hwh89 · « **Reply #28 on:** August 29, 2011, 10:44:13 PM »

i read that it's more of a medical thing than a psychological one. some explain it that you may have one eye processes scenes before the other. so when the slower eye catches that scene your brain makes you think you saw it before.

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