Mary Jane

[shivermetimbers]

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[S. Earl Martin]

Hello, I will attempt to clarify this debate to an extent. If I remember the debate has to do with the effects of Marijuana and weather it can have a positive or productive effect. I am going to offer some back ground information on the subject and let you decide for yourselves. Back in the day when I used Marijuana I was called Professor Pot by my friends. I had an extensive library on the subject as well as drugs in general.
Marijuana contains over 6000 types of cannabinoids and over 3000 tetrahydracanabinoids. Each variety or even plant has a different combination of these giving it a distinct effect.
Varieties high in cannabinoids have a narcotic effect and stimulate the physical body. This is why it is called body pot. They can make the user hungry, sleepy, lethargic, horny or promote laughter.
Varieties high in tetrahydracannabinoids have a euphoric or even hallucinogenic effect. They have been shown to stimulate the brain and can promote creativity and more intellectual thought. They have also been shown to increase agility and coordination. That is why they are called mind pot.
Depending on the variety used and the individuals own metabolism the effect varies from person to person. How something effects one person is not necessarily an indicator of how it will effect another person.
Marijuana has been used medicinally, spiritually and recreationally for thousand's of years. It is well documented that it can have an effect, both positive and negative. What this effect is varies from person to person. Depending on the variety used and how it is used. As well as the amount used and the manor it is used. Peace!

[voodoo scientist]

A) There is no debate. I made a general statement. You replied asking how I didn't understand something that I clearly stated to begin with. Of course I'll argue the point however I am void of "emotional attachment." There is no victory to be had as there is no argument over anything other than your inability to read and decipher plain text and your overwhelming ability to say things that make you look foolish. Your "argument" so far has said NOTHING relevant to what I have said, and half of the things that you are refuting about my post... ARE IN MY POST. You weren't... paying... attention. <That's the only thing that needs to be admitted here.

B)At no point did I state that I felt marijuana "improved" me. At no point did I state that I "overcame" marijuana. You made that up. I simply stated my smoking habits so that it was understood that the post was not from a biased point of view. Your interpretation is lacking.

The post was about people with ridiculous mindsets. Just a statement. To admit that you simply felt it necessary to make a hasty reply to a post saying something bad about a thing you like is the difficult task. To admit that you missed key information and were just talking to hear yourself talk.

whether my post was moot or not. your reply was erroneous and pointless.

A) When you make a point on an Internet forum, it will be debated. If you're not interested in debating your points, don't make them on a forum. Your point is that marijuana does not improve you, my point is that marijuana's effect cannot be measured in terms of "improving" or "degrading" you (and thus that your point lacks relevance).

B) You did not state you had overcome the belief that "marijuana improves you," I guessed that based on your stated point and the tone of its delivery. It may or may not be correct, but it's not really important - what's important is your validation of the statement's relevance by dismissing its veracity.

C) Now you're getting at it: Your mindset is ridiculous. Marijuana can not "improve" you because it's not a meaningful measurement of its effect without a stated frame of reference (marijuana can make you better at sitting in a couch watching TV, if your goal is to do it for as long as possible, for instance). Much like "The sky is blue," it needs not be said.

S. Earl Martin's got the right idea - just the facts.

[shivermetimbers]

A) When you make a point on an Internet forum, it will be debated. If you're not interested in debating your points, don't make them on a forum. Your point is that marijuana does not improve you, my point is that marijuana's effect cannot be measured in terms of "improving" or "degrading" you (and thus that your point lacks relevance).

^I already said these things.^ You're repeating me. There is no debate because you're arguing my point for me.

B) You did not state you had overcome the belief that "marijuana improves you," I guessed that based on your stated point and the tone of its delivery. It may or may not be correct, but it's not really important - what's important is your validation of the statement's relevance by dismissing its veracity.

Assumptions. Ignorant.

C) Now you're getting at it: Your mindset is ridiculous. Marijuana can not "improve" you because it's not a meaningful measurement of its effect without a stated frame of reference (marijuana can make you better at sitting in a couch watching TV, if your goal is to do it for as long as possible, for instance). Much like "The sky is blue," it needs not be said.

^I already said that^ and it can be measured in any way that I feel to measure it.



S. Earl Martin's got the right idea - just the facts.
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You aren't very good at debate .... you make me giggle. Your logic circles are retarded. s. earl martin may be correct in his facts but that doesn't change the fact that people are not IMPROVED by smoking weed. It doesn't make them bad or misguided ... it makes them stoned. A persons mindset isn't measured in grams or inches or feet. Its their outlook. So your arguing that my opinion differs from yours. I'm not fighting facts ... I'm stating my mindset. If you want to debate facts I can do that. But you can't debate my mindset. In order to debate two ppl have to differ in facts and a facts outcome. you can't just debate opinion.

[voodoo scientist]

But you can't debate my mindset.

Actually, I do believe I just did debate your mindset, and that I demonstrated it to be a pointless mindset. Dispersed, unsubstantiated assertions about my debating skills and namedropping of logical fallacies do little to refute the fact that stating marijuana does not improve you is conceptually no different from stating that taking cough medicine will not make you Tuesday.

[shivermetimbers]

wow...

[shivermetimbers]

i feel like i'm having an argument with a milk carton smoking a joint.

[voodoo scientist]

This is like watching a little turtle that got flipped on its back. I can't stand it any more.