Multi layer thoughts?

[thetag]

Well this is something pretty interesting. Recently I've discovered, that whenever I am kinda relaxed (like before sleep or bored in the bus for a long time etc) it's possible to know/feel what are your thoughts gonna be in a few miliseconds just before you hear them in your mind. I really find it difficult to explain as its also difficult to understand, but this is something very interesting and i'd like to know if anyone else can do this.

Basically, I can stop thinking as we are used to do (hearing out thoughts) because they already are in your head, there is no need to ''speak'' it out in the mind. This is the same when we actually speak - first of all a thought somehow appears inside and the we speak it out, but we can also stay quiet and anyways be aware of the information we were about to tell someone. And multi layer thinking would be the same, just speaking equals thinking. I hope someone understood and is able to give more info on this

[sakoz]

Coinsidence or serendipity? I was about to post the following but first I read the latest post (yours;thetag) Read my post "Want To Take Charge of the Quality of your Emotions?"
SPIRIT was to be this title. I consider myself secular. At the age of fifteen, I renounced the religion I was indoctrinated in. So why the interest in "Spirit"? I'm at an impasse in describing something I call, "innate intelligence, wisdom" so others can relate to and understand. It 'dawned' on me, most people can relate to the word 'spirit'. What does spirit do? Just hang around till we die?
The phenomenon I refer to is experiential. Do you experience 'spirit'? Or do you just take it on faith as you been taught? If I refer to what I experience as 'spirit', you can probably relate to that better than to 'innate intelligence" were all born with, but seems unexperienceable as spirit. If what I expereince 'is' spirit, I can assure you it's 'real', regardless of the names we use. Once you experience it, it's no longer heresay.
I prefer to use the words, "innate, inherent intelligence, wisdom' we're born with , its not learned/aquired, but our birthright. We used it to learn how to walk and talk. Then we go to school to be indoctrinated in a different kind of "artifical intellgence". You can go on the game show Jeopardy and display what's crammed into memory, etc.  thetag, your 'on to something'. I believe we're about to experience another 'Paradigm Shift" of the magnitude of shifting from flat earth to round earth.

[thetag]

I didnt quite understand how is your reply connected to my message o.O

[sakoz]

When you relax, your usual learned,conditioned thoughts don't 'monopolize' your awareness and our second source of thoughts can "come out/appear".
You say you can stop thought, that also means you don't have to react to the stopped thoughts. I may have 'read' more into your post than is there.
You wrote 'multi layer thoughts', I refer to two sources of thoughts most people do  not yet recognize, that may not be what you meant.
Lets see if someone else understood you better than I did.
You wrote: "It's possible to know what your thoughts gonna be......." Then you can veto any thought before it evokes a unpleasnt emotional reaction. WOW, that's my objective, you validate my therory.
That will "shake' up the whole 'field of psychology,- PREVENTION  instead of REMEDIAL.- (You don't recognize the impact of; 'it's possible to know what your thoughts gonna be.." This is as great as penicillin and other 'discoveries'." Congratulations for such 'recognition'.

[thetag]

Well, as I have observed, there is only one source for my thoughts, like a primary somewhere deep in the brain and then comes the secondary thoughts (those usual ones everyone experiences, that we ''hear'' in head, like our inner voice). Its just like the primary source tells secondary one to ''speak'' and what exactly to ''say''. And I can (just as anyone else) stop the ''inner thought voice'' and sorta listen to the silence, and then somehow access the area where brain forms our thoughts in sentences in order to pass it further

Its something similar as those super fast reflexes. For example, you are driving a car on highway and suddenly something pops out in front of you, and your legs automatically press on brakes without yourself even realizing it, or your hand pulls away as soon as it touches something way too hot (boiling water, for example) automatically. I was taught about this at university, it happens when there is too less time to ''ask head brain for confirmation of the corresponding actions'', so our backbone brain takes action without passing on the information (skipping brain) and thus saving the body (self protection mechanism).

and this could be somehow associated with what I experience, like I can access the source of my thoughts deep inside head (it truly feels like the feeling of something deep, far away and it listening to this source makes my head hurt if I do this for a while) and this is really difficult to explain

[sakoz]

Stay with your statement "....I can access the source of my thoughts....". That means you can determine what thought you want to form? Or veto any thought you see will evoke unpleasant emotions. That is the ultimate therapeutic "goal".

[thetag]

Yes, if I focus well on this then it's possible to determine what thoughts I wanna pass on to the inner ''voice'' and which ones not. I'm not quite sure, but I guess everyone can do this, its easy. Just give it a try yourself - relax for a moment and stop thinking, allow complete silence in your head. Then just listen to the silence and try to notice another thoughts, very deeply inside, silently forming main thoughts. It is quite difficult to stop thinking for extended periods of time (a few minutes maybe?) at first.

[sakoz]

"....but I guess everyone can do this...". Yes; if you mean everyone has the "potential" to do it; but the vast maority are not doing it.    See how many readers will report back doing what you suggest.

See my post; "Can't see the forest for the trees?" ( Shift to a higher perspective).