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Re: Personal Empowerment
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2011, 08:40:53 PM »
The violin actually. He used it to charm the ladies. Wink Wink! Although the ukelele was quite popular in his time so I don't know about that one.
Time is all we really have.

We do not own the earth. We are borrowing it from our children.

Is that what you really think? 

How many ignorant people does it take to destroy a planet?

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Re: Personal Empowerment
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2011, 09:18:48 PM »
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Einstein once stated; "The world we have made as a result of the LEVEL OF THINKING we have done thus far, creates problems we cannot solve at the SAME LEVEL at which we created them."
(my capitalization). Your experience in therapy with patients know that people need more practical application to their own experience. You mean their trying to solve their problems at the same level they created them?
coming back to this point of practical application. the practical application to their own experience is to put the patient in the frame of a higher order perspective.
The so-called miraculous powers of a great master are a natural accompaniment to his exact understanding of subtle laws that operate in the inner cosmos of consciousness.

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Re: Personal Empowerment
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2011, 08:06:28 PM »
"...the practical application to their own experience is to put the patient in the frame of a higher order perspective''.   " to put the patient"?  You don't PUT them anywhere.
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."  The therapist ought to be there first, they need to model by example what it's like in/from a higher order perspective.
I've been touting "higher order witnessing perspective" for months now.

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Re: Personal Empowerment
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2011, 10:32:18 PM »
you call me a stickler!
The so-called miraculous powers of a great master are a natural accompaniment to his exact understanding of subtle laws that operate in the inner cosmos of consciousness.

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« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2011, 07:47:38 PM »
Our usual frame of reference/perspective cannot encompass/engulf a higher order frame of reference/perspective, but the higher order can do so to the lower.
The larger concentic circles of a target do not fit into the lower ones. Both are one-way, asymmetrical relations

 

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