Recognize or Believe (not both at once if thought is false)

[sakoz]

If you RECOGNIZE a thought as false, you won't believe it's true.
If you BELIEVE a false thought, you don't recognize it's false.

"Scientific Method" is about testing theories/thoughts. Why test theories? Testing implies that theories have been  and can be false; based on past experience. That's a given, the 'way it is.'
We seem to need protection from unrecognized false thoughts.
I have been unduly focusing on 'believing',without giving "recognition" due attention.
If you recognize a thought as false, you won't believe it's true.
I have been preoccupied with "symptoms" rather than with "cause", like the rest of you.
If there had been collaboration, someone might have 'pointed this out sooner. This way , I have to do it myself, which takes longer. Good thing i'm not a cook, you will get hungry by the time I serve you a "platter"
Recognition requires/follows perception. Do you recognize when you believe some of your thought-images are real? How could you? If you RECOGNIZE then you won't BELIEVE and if you believe, you don't recognize the falsity.
Some of you claim you already know about believing some images are real. But when "you" UNWITTINGLY believe, your involuntary reacts without your conscious intervention, so, so much for what you 'know'. It's what your involuntary does that 'counts' when it comes to emotional well being.

[SWM]

its all involuntary even what you consider to be voluntary is involuntary.

[SWM]

the brain is the creator of thoughts. all thoughts. including images and memories.

[SWM]

there is plenty of research if you want proof. I am not trying to prove anything to you. it doesnt matter to me what you believe.

you asked a question and i answered, as with many of your threads i have told you what i understand and you don't agree with the answers i give. that doesnt matter to me either.

the information is still there for people who can accept it.

[SWM]

do you think thoughts happen independently of the brain?

for this to be true physical reality as it is perceived, which would include your body and brain would have to be created by a form of consciousness that exists independently and is creating the physical world of sense perceptions for existential experience.

[SWM]

creationist and evolusionists also have proof of their theories.

creationist have the bible for proof and evolutionist have empirical evidence.

which one you believe to be true depends on your schema for universal manifestation.

[SWM]

I do not know what you mean by "schema confound dialogue"

what is that?

[SWM]

everybody has different schema. a schema is how your brain symbolises and structures your perceptions, experiences and memories. every schema is different. like a photo album for each of your experiences. you have a boogy man photo album begins with images of a boogy man and ends with images of no boogy man.

yes, people who have similar schema for similar experiences get along. they might say they have things in common.

[SWM]

The EFT post made by sakoz has moved to a seperate thread

http://psychology-forum.com/counselling-and-psychotherapy-forum/re-recognize-or-believe-%28not-both-at-once-if-thought-is-false%29/