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psy_guy

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What causes to 'love' somebody?
« on: March 02, 2011, 11:25:42 PM »
Hi. First of all - I'm a rational thinker.
I know that love is a chemical reaction, which creates more endorphins, Vassopresin and possibly other chemicals which I have no knowledge of. (Actually just read something in science forums a long, long time ago, so I might be wrong even about these chemicals...)
Anyway, to the point: these chemicals are created in less amounts when you don't 'love' somebody, so logically they are created under certain circumstances. My question is - on what circumstances and why they are created? Why do we 'love' other people? What causes that to happen?
My theory: since conscious mind isn't as powerful as unconscious mind, you think something in your unconscious mind that makes the chemicals to be created in bigger amounts.

P.S. I'd like to hear a nice, big and explanatory scientific explanation on this. Not saying others shouldn't post, just saying what would be perfect. :)

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Re: What causes to 'love' somebody?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 12:40:05 AM »
it could be argued that anything that we think with the conscious mind is the outward expression of what has just been processed by the unconscious mind.

therefore love happens unconsciously and is communicated by the brain to our consciusness after the fact.

it might be useful to constemplate the conditions that give rise to the unconscious process that becomes love.
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Re: What causes to 'love' somebody?
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 12:59:51 AM »
But if it gets processed by the unconscious mind first, then comes to conscious mind, what if the guy or girl is trying to think that he doesn't love somebody. A friend of mine can't live without relationship, he can't leave the girls because he fells in love with every one he gets A LITTLE BIT closer to. Even though he doesn't like her for some reason. He's told me the story that he was saying to himself aloud and not aloud that he doesn't love her for an hour and he still felt that sick feeling in his stomach and afterwards instantly thought that he loves her.
This story proves that you can control the conscious mind, but where do the unconscious thoughts goes in the meantime? Why they were still affecting him even though his thoughts were completely different? I think it disproves the theory that conscious mind receives what unconscious thinks, or it proves that what you think you think isn't important at all and is pointless, because it will still be thinking the same way unconscious does.

As for contemplating love - it is hard. You don't know when you fell in love, so you don't know what you were thinking unless you're paying attention to every thought of yours and you have got an incredible memory, which allows you to remember every thought that went trough your head during past few days to analyze it. Which is almost impossible...

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Re: What causes to 'love' somebody?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 01:32:50 AM »
Well, if ya want to talk rational about this and all scientific ... go straight to attraction and knowing that one theory is that people are attracted to those with opposite anti bodies. This way the offspring will benefit from two different immune systems and be stronger.

If ya want to go psychological then there is the attraction to what is familiar and conditions due to parents. Given that Oxytocin is experienced during nursing = bonding. Same thing with sex and even kissing. That is all I can supply in terms of logic. Just a week ago I heard on psych radio that kissing releases oxytocin which is a rather new finding.

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Re: What causes to 'love' somebody?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 02:19:37 AM »
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Well, if ya want to talk rational about this and all scientific ... go straight to attraction and knowing that one theory is that people are attracted to those with opposite anti bodies. This way the offspring will benefit from two different immune systems and be stronger.
This theory sounds just as something to make people do something... The best example I can give is a computer game one - people are killing a simple boss, somebody says - if we won't use magic, we will get special items.
Why? Because antibodies can't interact trough mail, internet or phone. There are people who fell in love trough these things. (school exchange program, facebook, dad's partner's doughter (examples...))
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If ya want to go psychological then there is the attraction to what is familiar and conditions due to parents. Given that Oxytocin is experienced during nursing = bonding. Same thing with sex and even kissing. That is all I can supply in terms of logic. Just a week ago I heard on psych radio that kissing releases oxytocin which is a rather new finding.
That is interesting. Although sometimes people doesn't need care, they need to get somebody to care about. They care about people and doesn't need caring themselves. I know such guy, he is planning on a religious career apparently...

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Re: What causes to 'love' somebody?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 04:23:49 AM »
Hey, I am just repeating rational data that I have absorbed. I find writing or speaking on this subject on the level of rational thinking limiting. Would any one like to write about the rational mind as apposed to the intuitive hmmmm. because humans essentially are not rational creatures and rational is but one tool towards information and not exactly experiential. So, if I were to dig into the LOVE subject with my whole brain-mind it wouldn't sound so measurable.

Just trying to stay with in the limitations of the request.

One more thing. essentially life is energy there for it all ends up being about energy. So think electrical on the level of everything. Peoples energies attract one another. So that is where I come from. The other is just data. You are now talking magic and some how or another that just doesn't rhyme with rational.

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