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braindev

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Disorder or not?
« on: May 30, 2008, 03:36:51 AM »
I do not like people using the phrase disorder when it comes to eating conditions. Disorder in the mind of many that I have talked to over the years means something outside of a person affects what is happening. However eating "disorders" is simply a person choosing for their own reasons to harm themselves. In my opinion, the term disorder is distracting and misleading.

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Re: Disorder or not?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2008, 10:57:57 PM »
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I do not like people using the phrase disorder when it comes to eating conditions. Disorder in the mind of many that I have talked to over the years means something outside of a person affects what is happening. However eating "disorders" is simply a person choosing for their own reasons to harm themselves. In my opinion, the term disorder is distracting and misleading.

i think i see the point you are making. if somebody is choosing a certain course of action then their condition should not really be called a disorder. the same would apply to drug use disorders.

an argument that could be drawn from this is that people do not choose to be ill. they choose certain behaviours and those behaviours result in illness. further than this there comes a point when the illness(condition/disorder) has become the cause of behaviour. we see this alot in eating disorders and drug and alcohol use problems.

another debate to draw out of this is the issues about labels, what do we call people who have something that differentiates them from other people, schizophrenia has a lot of negative stigma and bipolar has almost a kudos with the label.

disorder, disease, condition, or illness which label do we use and how come we get so worked up about it.

nice thread BD  :D
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Re: Disorder or not?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2008, 05:08:00 AM »
Those are all nice points you made Stanley. And what Braindev brought up is a very good point. These labels do get confusing. I never really know what makes something a disorder, or a disease or a condition. The medical fields need to be more clear in defining these and the media needs to not use them interchangeably.

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Re: Disorder or not?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2008, 12:20:23 PM »
i think its used as a exscuse, every one likes to eat food but some people like to be greedy, therefor they become fat and when they do so insted of sayoin well yer i probobally shoudnt eat so much they tend to blame it on a disorder.

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Re: Disorder or not?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2008, 06:43:22 PM »
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i think its used as a exscuse, every one likes to eat food but some people like to be greedy, therefor they become fat and when they do so insted of sayoin well yer i probobally shoudnt eat so much they tend to blame it on a disorder.

I actually do agree with a lot of that. However it is not always the person's fault. Something may of happened to them as a child that led to this. Perhaps a bad relationship with an obese parent led to these suppressed feelings, and they are coming out through such a disorder.

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Re: Disorder or not?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2008, 12:40:43 PM »
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I do not like people using the phrase disorder when it comes to eating conditions. Disorder in the mind of many that I have talked to over the years means something outside of a person affects what is happening. However eating "disorders" is simply a person choosing for their own reasons to harm themselves. In my opinion, the term disorder is distracting and misleading.

I understand where you are coming from, but there are lots of experts that would disagree about people with an eating disorder choosing to harm themselves for their own reasons.  Many times there are things that happen to them that they cannot control and this behovior is a result of that.  

Even when it is just overeating that causes obesity, many times there are things that young people go through in life that set them up for a pattern of overeating.  In those cases I think it is perfectly fine to refer to them as eating disorders.

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Re: Disorder or not?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 06:25:39 PM »
Eating disorders afflict millions of people, thousands of which will die from them yearly. There is good news though, eating disorders can be beaten. You do not have to be a prisoner to this anymore. You have the power within yourself to beat this and you will. Recovery takes a lot of time and hard work, but in the end it is all worth it. You will finally be free and you will love yourself. When recovery happens you will be able to look in the mirror and say, "Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest one of all" and it will be you:)

 

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