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Fanaticism about not being understood?
« on: July 14, 2011, 07:35:37 AM »
 ??? I am beginning to think more and more that I am having a major problem of (being understood)? I repeat over and over my argument as if I wasn't understood. I love philosophy but it seems I am pusing the boundry of paranoia? Can this be a problem I seem to sense it might be? Thoughts please. pljames

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Re: Fanaticism about not being understood?
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2011, 08:39:30 AM »
If someone initially doesn't understand you, repeating the same argument over and over won't suddenly make them get what you're trying to say.  Try to reframe your point in different words, use examples, and clarify what you've already said.  Our language (especially in pop psychology and philosophy) is full of words that have been overused to the point in which they have no true objective definition.  Words like consciousness, love, god, soul, etc. all can have different meanings for different people.  Be aware of this when crafting your argument. 
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Re: Fanaticism about not being understood?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2011, 08:54:50 AM »
Agreed and thanks. pljames

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Re: Fanaticism about not being understood?
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2011, 09:57:15 AM »
How do you know when you are understood. I observe people on this forum make an argument and that argument finds agreement with some other people but then the poster continually posts the same argument as though nobody understood or agreed.

This person does not know how to recognize when they have made their point and it has been accepted as valid point.

Do you think this might be a problem for you? Not knowing if you are understood?

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Re: Fanaticism about not being understood?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2011, 09:35:31 PM »
Definitely. pljames

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Re: Fanaticism about not being understood?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 12:53:10 PM »
You are correct. I worry about that. It's now becomming a pain for me. Suggestions on how to fix it. pljames

How do you know when you are understood. I observe people on this forum make an argument and that argument finds agreement with some other people but then the poster continually posts the same argument as though nobody understood or agreed.

This person does not know how to recognize when they have made their point and it has been accepted as valid point.

Do you think this might be a problem for you? Not knowing if you are understood?

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Re: Fanaticism about not being understood?
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 09:09:38 PM »
You are correct. I worry about that. It's now becomming a pain for me. Suggestions on how to fix it. pljames

How do you know when you are understood. I observe people on this forum make an argument and that argument finds agreement with some other people but then the poster continually posts the same argument as though nobody understood or agreed.

This person does not know how to recognize when they have made their point and it has been accepted as valid point.

Do you think this might be a problem for you? Not knowing if you are understood?
Yes! pljames

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Re: Fanaticism about not being understood?
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2011, 10:09:13 PM »
Some people continue to make the same point over and over or use the same expressions or a number of different mechanisms. Because they want attention. Not because they are not being understood. I don't know if this is the case here. I am starting to think it is the case with some other people posting on other threads.

One way to determine if you are being understood is to ask. As you did. If someone gives you a positive response. It should be taken as they did understand. Everyone is different and no one will think exactly as you do. So the way they express their thoughts will be different. This does not mean they didn't understand. Peace!
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Re: Fanaticism about not being understood?
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2011, 03:01:43 PM »
I forgot who said this but...

"for those that understand no explanation is necessary and for those that do not, non will suffice"

Insert when space is needed.

 

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Re: Fanaticism about not being understood?
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2011, 01:24:47 PM »
the Zepher argument above could be true if someone went through something that just can't be reduplicated hence shown in evidence, like telling somebody I saw a guy disappear but I think the main point of a discussion between two people is agreement, at least that's how I saw the world as being able to start with me and someone else, so go ahead james, what is it you aren't being understood about?


Maybe I do not listen when I talk. I think I make sense like I am talking to you? Yet I have a (be perfect fanaticism). I do not believe in perfect. My goal is to be understood. Why I worry is beyond me? pljames

 

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