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Homosexuality
« on: May 30, 2008, 03:49:50 AM »
Homosexuality was once listed on the APA's mental disorder list. However over the years groups fought to get it removed and they were successful in the 1990's. With homosexual "rights" being debated in America as we speak, the question remains on whether it is a disorder or not. Scientifically speaking, it is biologically and anatomically abnormal, but others still claim it is not a disorder.

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2008, 11:35:40 PM »
oral sex is anatomically and biologically abnormal too, but it is damn good!
i have never seriously thought of homosexuality as a disorder, i am not sure homosexuality is a sexual preference either.
some people are born gay and some people choose.
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2008, 01:14:12 PM »
homesexuality is not a sexual disorder, that would be like saying hetrosexuality is also a disorder. totally stupid claims.

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2008, 07:01:12 PM »
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oral sex is anatomically and biologically abnormal too, but it is damn good!
i have never seriously thought of homosexuality as a disorder, i am not sure homosexuality is a sexual preference either.
some people are born gay and some people choose.

There is no confirmed scientific data that proves people are born gay. There are theories, but those have fallen apart under scrutiny and experimentation. All evidence suggests it is a choice. In my opinion, of course there are behaviors and events in one's life that can make one more likely to be gay, but the final decision is up to the individual.

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oral sex is anatomically and biologically abnormal too, but it is damn good!

How so?

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homesexuality is not a sexual disorder, that would be like saying hetrosexuality is also a disorder. totally stupid claims.

It would not be like saying hetrosexuality is a disorder. One is the norm. they other is deviant. Please back up your "stupid claims" remarks

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2008, 11:51:23 AM »
Disorder makes it sound wrong...which is disagreeable and therefore I do not think homosexuality is a disorder.

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2008, 11:13:51 PM »
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Disorder makes it sound wrong...which is disagreeable and therefore I do not think homosexuality is a disorder.

However, you must remember that on the biological and anatomical and even if you get down to it, social degree, it is considered wrong. So if a disorder according to you is something that is wrong, then homosexuality is wrong and therefore a disorder.

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2008, 04:13:41 AM »
I don believe calling something unaccepted by a society is wrong. there are several things that we go through in our daily routine, which are not accepted. I m sure then we are also a part of the disorder category. If you choose someone of opposite sex, it does mean that you are normal. Look at from the point of view of a homosexual man/woman, For him or her, you are abnormal.  


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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2008, 05:18:01 PM »
Homosexuality refers to sexual behavior or attraction between people of the same sex, or to a sexual orientation.As a sexual orientation, homosexuality refers to "an enduring pattern of or disposition to experience sexual, affectional, or romantic attractions primarily to" people of the same sex; "it also refers to an individual’s sense of personal and social identity based on those attractions, behaviors expressing them, and membership in a community of others who share them."

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2008, 07:52:13 AM »
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oral sex is anatomically and biologically abnormal too, but it is damn good!

How so?

in so much as the sexual organs have developed anatomically and biologically for the purpose of procreation through penetrative sexual intercourse. oral sex is an adaptive reward/pleasure seeking behaviour, achieved through stimulation of the genitals. which while being wonderfully pleasurable is not the organs intent or puprose.  

i think this is a similar pattern of behaviour with gay sexual activity, shoot me down if i am wrong, i have no experience of being gay so i stand to be corrected.
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2008, 12:51:36 PM »
Cool, a topic on homosexuality.

I used to volunteer on a website, helping out gay/lesbian teenagers (mostly).
I, myself, am not definite.

I wouldn't classify homosexuality as a disorder.

I am not sure about people born gay but I highly doubt that being the case.

There are a few reasons why a person is gay in the very first place, mainly due to environmental factors or past hurts (any form of abuse, ranging from physical to emotional and including verbal abuse, rape, and molestation). Divorce in the family increases the chances of the house raising homosexuality. A demanding parent affects too.

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2008, 11:57:55 PM »
I do not believe it is a disorder in any way.
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2008, 12:56:44 AM »
And why is that?

You have anything to back your belief?

By human biological and anatomical standards, and even human social standards, homosexuality is abnormal.

By definition of a disorder, it could fit right on in.

The APA once had it listed as a disorder until certain left-wing groups argued for its removal. The same groups are now trying to get pedophilia removed from the list as well. That shows something...

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2008, 07:02:32 PM »
Homosexuality is not a disorder you arent born homosexual it is aquired or learned homosexuals claim there is a gene that makes you homosexual but scientists havent found anything yet.

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2008, 09:45:30 AM »
I have a question. I'm a 19 year old male. For as long as I can remember I have always liked females or girls, but also for as long as i can remember i have had homosexual thoughts and dreams. I am not gay and have never had sex or done anything sexual to someone of the same sex. I'm not really confused I just don't know what it means.  ???

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2008, 01:26:06 PM »
It is strange...   you could say people are born with a disposition to homosexuality; they are born with the right neural makeup which later leads to the psychology of homosexuality, I feel. 


   
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2008, 08:13:49 AM »
Homosexuality was once listed on the APA's mental disorder list. However over the years groups fought to get it removed and they were successful in the 1990's. With homosexual "rights" being debated in America as we speak, the question remains on whether it is a disorder or not. Scientifically speaking, it is biologically and anatomically abnormal, but others still claim it is not a disorder.

Any thoughts?

I don't think homesexuality is a sexual disorder. When we define a kinda mental disorder, we concern not only personal issues, but social conditions as well. In now days, social cognition about the homesexuality has changed, for there have been so many changes in our ways of living and acting, homesexuality is also accepted commonly.

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2008, 05:24:38 PM »
I wish we were more worried about how we are treating these folk and others, than we are about something that we (breeders) have no control over, and are arguably not truly affected by on a daily basis.

It's kinda like polytricians and lemmings screaming about "taxes".  I don't care as much if I pay 1, 5, 10 percent more or less in taxes than I am about people having homes, healthcare, the environment, our relationship to the rest of the planet's people/nations, the US sucking at education and etc.  It's another non-issue by comparison.
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2009, 09:57:43 AM »
oral sex is anatomically and biologically abnormal too, but it is damn good!
i have never seriously thought of homosexuality as a disorder, i am not sure homosexuality is a sexual preference either.
some people are born gay and some people choose.

Nail on the head. 

Some are born gay due to genetics, some people choose to be gay based on cultural factors. 

And why is that?

You have anything to back your belief?

By human biological and anatomical standards, and even human social standards, homosexuality is abnormal.

By definition of a disorder, it could fit right on in.

The APA once had it listed as a disorder until certain left-wing groups argued for its removal. The same groups are now trying to get pedophilia removed from the list as well. That shows something...

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2009, 04:36:22 AM »
I think homosexuality is mostly biological.  While it may not be genetics (monozygotic twin studies suggest it's not entirely genes), it may be prenatal environment/hormones and things like that.  For most people I doubt it's a "choice" that they make consciously (as a matter of fact, I've never met a gay person that said they choose to be gay, it seems only religious people feel it's a choice).

As far as oral sex......we're not the only animals on the planet that engage in it.  We're not the only animals that engage in sex for recreation (dolphins/bonobos).  Heck, there's certain kinds of deer out there that rub their antlers on things until they orgasm!
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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2009, 05:20:06 PM »
Though for the first time in my life I think there may be some hope for polytricks in the US, I'd still be willing to do just about everything for humans to get over "isms".  Sexism, homophobia, racism, ageism... anyfuckin'ism.  How mediocre, ignorant, and sheltered do humans have to be to continue to engage in these things?  Aren't there more important things to worry about?

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Re: Homosexuality
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2009, 03:37:03 AM »
Homosexuality was taken out of the DSM because it is not a mental disorder. It is no more a mental discorder than heterosexuality. Just because you may think it is abnormal or wrong doesn't mean that being gay is abnormal or wrong. I assume, by your comment, that you are a part of the dominant culture, i.e. you are most likely white, heterosexual, and probably a man, or simply a women who has never experienced sexism. I assume that you are a majority member, because usually people who are a part of the minority population have been the target of misinformation, misguided thinking (such as yours), bigotry, hatred, and violence. So, usually peoeple who have experienced some form of hatred and bigotry have the brains to realize the parallels between them all and then they try, albeit not perfectly, not to impose those kinds of judgments on other people. Of course, there will always be a group that is hated. If not the gays, then immigrants, or Muslims...rather than looking inward at your own problems and how to better yourself, you'd rather pick on some other group and talk about what's wrong with them. Well, you just continue to live a life of ignorance and idiocy, and the rest of us who know anything about reality (as opposed to those who live in a bubble) will just sit back and feel sorry for you....and maybe laugh at you a little.... :)

 


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