matrix

[chiatea]

i'm very worried that im a matrix world. Will you tell me why you dont worry that you are so i can stop worrying? I just want to be normal. thank you.

[SWM]

what if you are in a matrix world? how is that any different from any one else in this matrix world? what is so bad about that?

if it was a matrix world you still have the same freedoms to move about, think what you like and feel what ever responses arise in your body.

[S. Earl Martin]

What is normal? If I live in Matrix world or not is irrelevant. I live where I live. I have the abilities I have. Just set goals to accomplish what you want and work toward them. This world is so crazy now. All the possibilities of what could happen or might happen can make you so fearful. Just deal with what you can and don't worry about the stuff you can't control. Be true to yourself, your friends, your world. Focus on the things that matter. Peace!

[gone]

Only when you step of of the matrix do you realise you were once in one.
I once lived in a matrix world, did the 9-5, bought material goods, followed traditions, watched tv etc..

"The matrix is everwhere, here in this room, outside on the streets, on your television sets, it is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
The truth that you are a slave like everyone else, born unto bondage of the matrix, a prison you can not smell, taste or touch, a prison for your mind."... Morpheus to Neo.

That sums up THE MATRIX, which I beleive is a metahore for THE SYSTEM, The Monetary/Capitalist System, many symbols and themes run parallel..

If you want out of the matrix you must understand how the World Bank and the IMF create money out of thin air, then find exuses (like looking for Bin-Laden) to invade innocent countries (currently Afghanistan) for resources, while purposely destroying the country so the US then give them loans (money created from nothing by the WB & IMF), to build the country back up, they send in US construction companies to build it back up and charge massive amounts of interest on the money the US lent to them...   its a win win win for the US and this is how the US remain an international powerhouse.
Nationally they have to control the population and it's not difficult with propaganda. See Edward Bernays..  Capping education, promoting religion & a stream of entertainment etc... It all keeps a nation sedate and stupid.. Actually just watch this movie below and you'll no longer be in the matrix.

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[stickels]

A. I think he is screwing with you.

B. If you did live in the matrix and think that it is alright then thats pretty sad. Truth should always be more important then comfort.

C. To answer your question, I have yet to see any evidence that I live in a matrix world so I dont worry that i am in a matrix world. You cant worry about random ideas that have zero substance.

[S. Earl Martin]

1: Stickels: Who do you mean he in A?

2: I believe that this world is really an illusion. That we are actually asleep and will eventually wake up to the true reality. I have no way of proving this. It is just my personel belief.

3: The war in the middle east and this bogus democracy movement is a contrived effort by the elite that are really running the world. It is designed to illiminate any government that won't go along with the one world government. The U.S. is currently on the verge of collapse. We are broke. The dollar is being replaced as the reserve capital in the world. The U.S. government would go along with the 1 w g. But the people would never go along with it. So they are destroying our economy with this bogus war on terrorism and war on drugs. They are going to force us into submission with starvation and inflation. Unless some miracle happens the dollar will drop in value so much that we will need a wheelbarrow full of them to buy anything.

4: I don't think this is the Matrix as it was depicted in the movie. I do however think that the dream is about to become a nightmare!!!

5: I also believe that when all seems lost they will preform false miracles that will amaze people and fool them to believe if they go along with what is demanded of them everything will be okay.

6: At the rate we are polluting the earth I also believe no matter what happens in 2012 we are in serious trouble.

7; Both world wars were caused at least in part by disputes about the value of currency. If the dollar is no longer the reserve currency it could lead to another war. Possibly a world war.
Peace!

[stickels]

1-6 is just silly

7. Neither of them were started because of currency. It was differences in philosophies.

[S. Earl Martin]

Stickels: The ignorance expressed in your statements is laughable. You didn't answer 1:. Which is for the purpose of clarification. Pretaining to your statement.

Plus both world wars were started because of disputes about patents and rate of interest charged as well as the value of currency. Idological differences, political philosophies, et al were just the excuse. War is always about money, land, material assets or oppressing someone weaker than the aggressor. The rulers rap themselves in the flag and claim some noble cause to trick the common person to support the war.

Maybe the matrix is real? It sure has stickels fooled! LOL!   

[stickels]

The first world war started with the assassination of franz ferdinand. That had nothing to do with currency. The second was the nationalist socialist party over throwing government. If you read mein kampf he explains it in great detail there. Hitler gave copies of "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" to leaders of Japan, Italy, spain and one other i believe. It was all about the philosophy. As far as the reasons you listed, pleanty of countries have had those  problems. They dont all go around killing 6 million jews. 20 million people in all. So that is a weak argument. If you read Nietzsche, Hitler got almost all of his ideas from  him. He misunderstood Nietzsche a great bit but you can trace back every one of his action to him. Read up on some shit before throwing up what they taught you in high school. ALSO i joined this forum to talk about psychology, not to debate history with retards or figure out if the matrix is real. I am thinking this might not be a good fit for me here.

[S. Earl Martin]

So you fell for the propaganda. LOL! Do you believe what the talking heads on the TV tell you as well. There is always the stated reasons. Then there is the actual reasons. You are tricked into believing the stated reasons. Powerful people do not act unless they have the potential to gain something. You are qouting the excuses given by the rich people to trick the common person to fight. Just like the "war on terrorism" today. It isn't about terrorism. It is about money. Franz Ferdinand was there negotiating a dispute about currency rates and interest rates. As well as patents between England,  France, and Germany and Austria. Germany had been forced to honor Englands and Frances patents. Germany discovered a way of making dyes and fertilizer while trying to make an explosive. They patented the processes and England and France made minor changes and ignored the patents. When he was killed the negotiations broke down and war was the result. The second world war was a result of the German currency being held low because of aggrements after the first world war. Plus debts that were impossible for Germany to pay off. All the postureing and excuses about why they went to war was window dressing. The killing of the Jews was a convient excuse to take their money and land. Hitler needed capital and used prejudice as an excuse to take it, but it was still about money. It is always about money. 

[stickels]

I am done with this. You are an uneducated ass. All you are doing is repeating what a high school history book would tell you. If he just wanted to take the jews fucking land and money he would have done so by kicking them out. Not by wasting tons and tons and tons of money on concentration camps, soldiers to guard it then giant ovens to kill them. You say it is about money but they obviously wasted a ton of it. I have been looking at your other posts. All you to is try to start shit. I am done replying to your posts and i might just be done with this forum. good job for driving new people away, i am sure the  owners really appreciate your contribution.

[S. Earl Martin]

So in a way you admited I am right. If the information I am saying is in history books then I am right. The amount of money it took to build and maintain the camps was minor compared to the slave labor and material wealth gained. Did you notice that the Jews were starving? Obviously the Nazi's spared no expense.

The people who regularly contribute to this sight are very intellegent. Maybe out of your league. Plus if you notice I am a practicus. They don't give that to people unless they like their contributions. My suggestion is before you start belittleing other people you do more research. If you want to be a baby because you got your feelings hurt and leave the sight? It is your loss. Plus I don't know what other posts you supposedly read, but I am someone who tries to mediate things and help prevent conflict. To try and keep things positive. Stick around and you may learn something. If you are more patient you might be able to teach others something. Peace

[stickels]

You cant insult me by saying that it is just out of my league then a few sentences later say that you solve conflicts. Like i said, i am now done talking to you, not because you're right but because i can tell that you are one of those people who will never admit when you are wrong. So peace out and let the owners know that you drove out someone and most likely other people by being an ass and not acting like someone should in your position.

[gone]

I really hate people who try to manipulate.. what sort of sentence is this

"I am done replying to your posts and i might just be done with this forum. good job for driving new people away, i am sure the  owners really appreciate your contribution"...

The psychology of people who behave that way makes me sick.. I can't speak for the owners but as another member I do appreciate the contributions of S.Earl Martin, even though we don't agree on a lot of things, this is a psycology forum and about people, the arrogant sentence above says a lot about where that posters psychology is.

[S. Earl Martin]

I said maybe out of your league. That was a genuine statement not a dig.
"I am thinking this might not be a good fit for me here." Quote from your post.
 I have no problem admiting when I am wrong. I have done so on this sight several times. I am however very seldom wrong and am not wrong in this case. I think maybe I am not the one who doesn't like to admit when I they are wrong?
I also didn't drive you out. LOL! If you can't compete with the level of intellect here it is your choice to leave. Don't blame me for your problem. Like I said if you stick around you may learn something. I know I have. Peace

[stickels]

None of you have obviously been to college or had any sort of psychology schooling. Peace out guys. I am going to find a better place where people are dicks.

[S. Earl Martin]

Okay go find a better place, were people are dicks. I am sure you will fit right in. LOL!!!
BTW I have been to college Major in biology. Minor in Psychology. So you are wrong again.

[S. Earl Martin]

We were talking about the space between us all
And the people who hid themselves behind a wall
Of illusion
Never glimps the truth.
It's so hard to take
When they pass away.
"With in you With out you"
George Harrison.

[SWM]

although this is a psychology forum i am also interested in social and economic issues too.

if people are interested in who benefited most from the first and second world wars and the wars since then including the neverending war on terror, you might want to investigate who was lending money to the governments that fought these wars.

a particular family of bankers controlling the money supply and economies of all countries involved while funding through loans to the governments and engineering conflicting social values such as communism - fascism / fundamental christianity - islamic extremeism.

you dont have to look far to see who owns and controls the central banking cartel.

[gone]

I am going to find a better place where people are dicks.

At least you realised you'll be better off amongst your own kind.

As long as there is difference there will be conflict. Thus demonstates how people respond when their belefs are challenged, they name call, try to bully and make feel bad etc... they don't realise there is no right and wrong, just a difference in oppinion, they are victim to their own ignorance.

Yes I agree with the monetary system talk.. We don't have to live the way we do, we only need food to survive, not cars, not jobs, not anything material or social, tribes in deepest darkest africa don't live a capitalist life and still survive and I guess have a better life than most. I'd like to sit on the beach and basket weave in the sun :-)

[S. Earl Martin]

I'd like to sit on the beach and basket weave in the sun :-)
Yeah I like that idea. I have always liked the life style of more rural enviornments. I live on a biodynamic farm. I can walk outside and pick my breakfast for most of the year.

I also agree about the difference of opinion. It is best just to focus on how to make things better. Also the few times I have been wrong on this sight I didn't check my facts and was going from memory. Or something may not be provable.

Anyway I like it here. BTW I started Chemo about 2 months ago. I will be haveing 1 week of treatment a month for the next 4 months. It is working I am better than I have been in years. It is just after the treatments it is hard to concentrate. So I may be in and out. Peace. 

[gone]

Pick your own breakfast.. hope you don't have bacon & eggs.. Hmm maybe one day we'll be growing bacon rather than breading it.


Good luck with the treatment, hope you come trough it feeling much better.

[S. Earl Martin]

LOL! Eggs yes. Bacon no. Mainly fruit and greens.

A traveling salesmen got stranded in the country and a farmer invited him to stay over night. As the family was eating a pig walked in the room. The salesman noticed that the pig had only 3 legs. The farmer says
"I see you noticed the pig" That is a special pig.
The salesman asks why is it special?
The farmer replies. Well we had a fire in the barn and the younguns was inside. That pig drug them out and saved their lives.
The salesman asks. Is that how she lost her leg?
The farmer replies. Shoot no a pig that good you don't wanna eat it all at once.

Oink Oink!

[Shoonya]

" Accept whatever u feel with a open heart n mind" n it will turn out to be normal n beautiful.

[S. Earl Martin]

Okay, back on subject. I saw a show last night about scientific advancement. They were talking about how real video games are becomeing. That in 50 years the technology would be able to creat exact copies of reality. So the theory is that we are actually video game simulations being run by people from the future. In other words we are in the Matrix. And we don't really exist. We are just creations for someone elses amusment. Hmmm! I want the blue pill and I want to be important and rich. Can you do that? Wait I already am. LOL!