cancer question

[warmblanket]

If Dad is going on chemotherapy everyday 7 days a week, 1-2 hours a day in the hospital until next February. Getting operation then, for colon cancer.
The scan results said they found a number of spots on his lungs as well (different organ), has to go for another scan or xray for lungs.
Doctor was suggesting, my mom said that, another man had stage 4 and they didnt think he'd be ok but he responded well, my mom thinks they were suggesting or preparing her. Do doctors/ psychologists in hospitals say those things to prepare? (she was showing the doctor alot of religious things she said, so Im thinking that they didnt want to tell her initially because of the religion thing shes telling them about? I wanted to go speak to doctor, but she was screaming and hitting me before we were to go, she didnt want me to go, so i didnt....Does anyone know what it means, if spots r there on lungs? .... someone asked why chemotherapy/radiation was done prior to operation, i looked it up online, it said its stage 3 cancer if thats the treatment, someone said they had 5-8 spots and it was lung cancer with colon cancer, was stage 4 cancer. Does anyone know? not sure about online info. How long woudl the cancer have been there for? I keep telling them to take the counselling in the hospital but theyre not listening

not coping very well

[SWM]

do you have people that you can talk to?

[S. Earl Martin]

I have been dealing with Leukemia for over 10 years now. I have learned a few things. Some of the information on line is very good and I would suggest checking anything the doctor says on line to make sure he is up to speed. I found out the hard way some are incompetant. Our first Oncolygist gave my wife the wrong medication twice and killed her. The one I have now is very competant and I still check everything we discuss on the net. Don't discount your moms religious faith. In times of stress it can be the only thing people have to hold on to. If you don't agree now would not be the time to argue the point. What is important is making sure your dad gets the right treatment. If the information you are getting from your doctor doesn't sound correct or if it contradicts information from say the american cancer society etc. find another doctor. You dad's life is on the line so there are a lot of doctors out there. Good luck and I will be praying for you, your family and your dad. Peace!

[voodoo scientist]

I don't feel comfortable giving emotional advice given the nature of the situation and my limited information, but one thing I will advise is that you yourself can probably take advantage of hospital counseling and ask how you can get them to take counseling. As such, this is purely practical.

I would not concern myself with the medical details if I were you. If you could theoretically learn a meaningful amount, it may be worth it, but you don't fully appreciate how complex a disease cancer is, and you will not be able to learn a 'meaningful amount' unless you are unemployed and expect to remain that way for years - such as is often the case for cancer sufferers themselves.

Doctors aren't a surefire way to get cured or even get good treatment, but most (98%+) of doctors are very competent and you will be much better off making money for more second opinions from actual doctors than you are spending your time trying to figure out how cancer works. You'll be using the skills you're good at to help your dad, rather than fighting an uphill battle on what's bound to be a vast slippery slope of medical books.

[S. Earl Martin]

Actually I have to disagree with Voo Doo. The information on the web can be very detailed, but on sights by the Cancer and Leukemia societies it is put in very basic / laymans terms. Also if you don't understand something you can call and talk to someone who can explain it. Find out exactly what kind of cancer your dad has. You said colon, but you need to know the exact medical definition. Then do a search for it. Just check the latest recomended treatment options and make sure they are what your doctor is recomending. If not have the doctor explain why. Also my doctor gave me information he had downloaded from the web that is in easy to understand terms and I compared it to what I found. What you are going thru is a very difficult process. I am praying for you!!!

[voodoo scientist]

That is a fair point I didn't account for. Naturally, you can and should seek out official sources of information from societies, charities and support groups, but for my part, that is because those have some of the best experts on any subject.

[warmblanket]

Actually I have to disagree with Voo Doo. The information on the web can be very detailed, but on sights by the Cancer and Leukemia societies it is put in very basic / laymans terms. Also if you don't understand something you can call and talk to someone who can explain it. Find out exactly what kind of cancer your dad has. You said colon, but you need to know the exact medical definition. Then do a search for it. Just check the latest recomended treatment options and make sure they are what your doctor is recomending. If not have the doctor explain why. Also my doctor gave me information he had downloaded from the web that is in easy to understand terms and I compared it to what I found. What you are going thru is a very difficult process. I am praying for you!!!

Thanks Earl, glad youre praying (hugs) ... he has to go on chemo for one year, everyday, for one hour ... i have faith he'll be ok (strange, i havent had faith in anything through trauma, but ive faith in my dad and pull through), mom was very upset this morning crying and praying ... trying to encourage him and give him hope tonight in the car, me and him, went out, he was feeling really ill ... he said to me other day, hurry up and finish masters n get into phd and my dreams and projects I was planning out 3 years ago, before he "dies" he said he wants to see me successful before something happens ... i told him i would, and trying to get work done quickly....was crying later in bed cos couldnt tell him ive no shot at phds after delaying 3 years  doing a masters - failed him miserably ... things r pretty shitty ... plus alot of people in college pretty nasty w/o remorse for peoples feelings / inhumane ... wouldnt give me a chance to get a job or anything when i begged them for proper reference, and help when things were difficult for dad... jerks 

[S. Earl Martin]

Life is very seldom fair. I don't understand this world. Why people can be so mean, but I just try and love other people and spread as much joy as possible. Peace Earl

[warmblanket]

thanks earl, how are you doing? U ok? x

[S. Earl Martin]

I'm still alive. I had a reaction to the contrast again when they did the tests last friday. I got pretty sick, but I am better now. I am supposed to find out about the Chemo this week. It is in the Lords hands. You hang in there Earl

[hortonpilot]

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[warmblanket]

thanks a mil, selenium is in eggs i recollect, must tell him....think hes getting an injected form of chemotherapy into his main vein of his heart; dont really understand it (as wasnt with doctor) but he has to wear this thing, and the chemotherapy will be pumped into him 24 hours a day via his main vein to his heart. Getting lymph nodes removed in surgery and the tumours. Will be on chemo for full year. they said he's going to be very sick

[warmblanket]

Thanks Earl, I guess you were right about the faith thing. My mom is doing really well, she's doing ultra best in positivity, she puts her heart and soul into things, gets really engaged, and sometimes gets too overly worried in things, but she's really helping Dad, and were planning the best supper booster veggie-fruit diets...think she needed a holiday with stress she went through post her operation, not more bad news... Anyways we're all building spirits stronger and getting stronger... think he'll be strong enough to fight it, he has a good sense of humour which will help too ...will be intensely hard year though...but we're all really happy together...

[S. Earl Martin]

Praise God! I have been praying for you and your family. I also asked friends of mine to pray.
I am going in the hospital soon to start Chemo. I have tried every holistic method I could find that sounded safe or effective, but they just slowed it down. So it looks like Chemo is going to be my only option. I have a good doctor and I have researched it. I really think this is the best course. The Lords will be done. When it is my time I know were I am going. If the Lord grants me more time here? I will continue to serve God as best as I can. Merry Christmas! Be blessed. Earl

[warmblanket]

Praise God! I have been praying for you and your family. I also asked friends of mine to pray.
I am going in the hospital soon to start Chemo. I have tried every holistic method I could find that sounded safe or effective, but they just slowed it down. So it looks like Chemo is going to be my only option. I have a good doctor and I have researched it. I really think this is the best course. The Lords will be done. When it is my time I know were I am going. If the Lord grants me more time here? I will continue to serve God as best as I can. Merry Christmas! Be blessed. Earl

You know your so kind, you've a big heart. Glad someone here on my side, most of time I feel alone and vulnerable. Hope the Chemo works for you, have my fingers crossed for you, i wish for your well being and something or someone to keep you safe. Hope Christmas is fun...maybe try collect a few nice funny movies, some people been cured in those ways... x

[S. Earl Martin]

Proverbs 11:24-25
It is possible to give away and become richer! It is also possible to hold on too tightly and lose everything. Yes, the liberal man shall be rich! By watering others, he waters himself!

[warmblanket]

Proverbs 11:24-25
It is possible to give away and become richer! It is also possible to hold on too tightly and lose everything. Yes, the liberal man shall be rich! By watering others, he waters himself!

That is true, sometimes....hope u have a good xmas, n take care of yourself.

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