Channeling Lucifer

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Alloya Huckfield, a medium talks about channeling Lucifer: http://alloya.com/PDF%20Files/dark%20beings/The%20Fallen%20Angel.pdf

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How can you justify contaminating a psychology forum with delusion of god/devil. This is psycholgoy, I wish people wern't contaminated with that shite either.
I recommend you cleans yourself with knowledge: psychics use Barnum Statements & Cold Reading. Jesus from Horus, Satan is from it's opposite Set..
Satan=Set - the dark as opposed to Horus the light. from Egyptian mythology.
Jesus fucking Christ, I swear there's really no hope for people...

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"Horus is victorious over Set and Ausar, being brought back from the dead becomes lord of the underworld. It is this drama that gives us the cosmic conflict between good and evil, evil being embodied by Set."

The story of egyptian mythology is Horus is the sun god, Set is the night that comes in when the Sun has descended. This a daily battle between Horus and Set. Between day and night, between light and dark, between good and evil..
Horus is the the sun, the day, the light, the good.
Set is the night, the dark, the evil.

Horus today is Jesus.
Set today is Satan.

Mediums today remain the scum of the earth.

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How can you justify contaminating a psychology forum with delusion of god/devil. This is psycholgoy, I wish people wern't contaminated with that shite either.
I recommend you cleans yourself with knowledge: psychics use Barnum Statements & Cold Reading. Jesus from Horus, Satan is from it's opposite Set..
Satan=Set - the dark as opposed to Horus the light. from Egyptian mythology.
Jesus fucking Christ, I swear there's really no hope for people...

Quote from wiki
"Horus is victorious over Set and Ausar, being brought back from the dead becomes lord of the underworld. It is this drama that gives us the cosmic conflict between good and evil, evil being embodied by Set."

The story of egyptian mythology is Horus is the sun god, Set is the night that comes in when the Sun has descended. This a daily battle between Horus and Set. Between day and night, between light and dark, between good and evil..
Horus is the the sun, the day, the light, the good.
Set is the night, the dark, the evil.

Horus today is Jesus.
Set today is Satan.

Mediums today remain the scum of the earth.

Well this is a parapsychology section, correct?

Parapsychology is a discipline that seeks to investigate the existence and causes and conditions of psychic abilities, near-death experiences, out-of-the-body experiences, crisis apparitions, retro-cognitions, reincarnation memories, regression memories, prophecy, astrology, ghosts and life after death. -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology

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It's insane in this day & age people believe in the paranormal.
Parapsycology, should be the study of why there is still a belief in such nonsense. If people really believe they experiece God for example, when god not to exist, surely the investigation would be what are people experiencing, if not god? Delusion perhaps, but it's more complex and more interesting than that, and worthy of study.
I can't ever experience the paranormal, because a person has to believe in the paranormal to experience it.
Parapsychology - it's joke material.

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@Serenesam this is a parapsychology forum and it is for discussion of topics such as you are bringing to the forum. personally i am greatful for the variety of topics that these forums are able to offer expression to.

psycho-mother is an alarmist although she has good intentions her attacks on peoples opinions are ignorant of other peoples experiences and values and are born of intolerance of the diversity of life the kind of intolerance we see promoted in the dumb down mainstream media.


if you are seriously interested in parapsychology you will come across much worse reactions than hers. let your personal experiences be testimony to your own truth.

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My attacks arn't personal, they are attacks on organised religion which make believe whatever they want them to believe. We are taught in education establishments about christianity but we are not taught about ancient egyptian mythology, one can only come to one conclusion upon study of the both, but one is denied from mainstream education and mainstream media.

"The Lord is My Shephard" of course because those following him are sheep!

Just last week an asian UK Doctor appealed to be re-instated after he was struck of some years ago for performing femal circumcision in London for £500 a time. People mutilate their children in the name of religion, in africa & muslim countries they tie the girls down while their bits are hacked off in the name of God.
Religion is a terrible thing, it deludes people into believing satan vioce is channeled through a medium.. How can that be a good thing?
Horses wear blinkers so they're not distracted by the panarama around them and go where man want them to. Religions are blinkers for people, it prevents them from seeing the reality of the pararama around them..

John Pilger "Hidden Agenda" shows the panarama. http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Agendas-John-Pilger/dp/156584520X

I promote acceptance of difference, the ignorance is of people who will not open their eyes to explore beyond their beliefs.
I watch Al zajeera and RT news and not Murdoch's mass media machine of manipulation, we don't get Fox News here but bloodyhell that opened my eyes. No wonder so many Americans are crazy religious people. If it's fed to them, they'll swallow it.

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 attacking religion is not promoting accpetance of difference.

you say the ignorance of people is those who will not open their eyes to explore beyond their beliefs, but you have only one possible explanation for mediumship (barnham statements and cold reading). that is a blinkered view, an unblinkered view would remove the "one possible explanation" and say there may be something other than barnham statements and cold reading. But you cannot do that yet, you have been told about barnham statements and it fits with your narrow conception of the reality that you live in. this "one possible explanation" fits nicely into your blinkered view so well that you believe no other possible explanation exists. therefore you are self justified in ridiculing others who have different beliefs, values or opinions.

religion continues as it does because it fills a void in the lives of many people.  you say people are deluded by religion. some mystics would say that this world as we see it is an illusion if you belive in this world as real you are deluded.  if threfore you can recognise that all that we perceive and observe in this reality is both true and untrue, real and unreal simultaneously you are possibly closer to being less deluded than those whe who cannot.

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Barnum Statements, the Foyer Effect, Cold Reading, Linguistic Tricks, Subjective Validation, some more words that describe what is going on when mediums do their thing.
This CAN be proven. Because this is how they work.
It CAN NOT be proven that they are speaking to the dead or lucifer. Does this not tell you something? They may as well be saying they are communicating with Aneka on planet Zordith, why would people believe the first but not the latter?

It's Russell's Tea Pot.. What more can I say.
The difference is I'm a rationalist where as religious people I guess are not. It's not rational to believe in mediums communicating with the dead or with the devil. For one, dead peope are dead. Two, the language tricks these peole use are easily identifiable. 3. Mediums have only been around since Victorian times, if dead people visited living people don't you think they would have visited them before the invention of this parlour game, which is where the whole sordid nonsense of mediums originated. 4. O man..

I could write a list of facts and a list of fantasy.
Fact: Satan is a lot like Set (Setan) from egyptian mythology. Fantasy: Satan wants your soul and people will burn in eternal hell if they don't obay God.

Fact: Mediums use tricks. Fantasy: Mediums communicate with dead people and channel Satans voice.

Fact: Religion distorts reality. Fantasy: Religion will comfort you.

Fact: Religion causes physical pain and cruely (female circumcision for example) to people. Fantasy: It's not cruel because God said so and God is good.

I was brought up in the west, I went to a C of E school, a friend I grew up with is a Rector (in Manchester). I have visited mediums and been to church. The only diffrence is I was willing to explore that what contradicted what I'd been conditioned to believe.

Religion only makes sense to control people, what's outside of that is real knowledge that is just breathtaking. I can only explain it like this: When you see a painting or a picture that is an optical illusion then suddenly you see another picture emerge, it's a revelation. Salvador Dali paintings for examples, or when metaphors in literature are realised. It's quite something.

When studdying Egyptian Mythology it's just the same, as piece by piece things reveal themselves:
Set for example is Satan, Sun-Set..
Winter Solstice (Christmas) when the sun is at it's lowest point in the sky, seems to die, then is resurected as it appears.
The 3 kings are a star constellation that follow the bright star Serius (note; stars not real people)
Worship not on a Monday but on a SUNday..
The sun disk above the head of Horus, is now the sun disk behind the head of Jesus..
Just search it's quite incredible.
In the Vatican the Sun & Phalic symbols are in abundance.. Is the Pope pagan.. I would certainly say so.. They worship the Sun.. Not the son as they would have you believe. It's just an optical illusion. What's revealed is far more amazing.

The Monstronce is a Sun.. The Popes hat is the same as Nimrod.. It is clearly Sun Worship.  
See here or just search 'Sun worship in Catholasism' or Pagan rituals in Christianity.

http://www.hol.com/~mikesch/monstr.htm
http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum/sapient/atheist_vs_theist/8180

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my point illustrated. thank you.

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And thank you for the opportunity to express the truth once again ;-)

All in good faith.

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I feel that many people have had personal experiences unexplainable in logical terms. Yes, I may want to challenge their claims and beliefs but who am I to judge? As long as they are not a danger to society and themselves, who cares.